That audio FUD again. Sony said that down the road the GPU can be used for other things, like ray-casting, during downtime between frames, to show how flexible the GPU is. They didn't tell developers that they have to do their sound processing on the GPU at all.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-to-face-with-mark-cerny
Now when I say that many people say, "but we want the best possible graphics". It turns out that they're not incompatible. If you look at how the GPU and its various sub-components are utilised throughout the frame, there are many portions throughout the frame - for example during the rendering of opaque shadowmaps - that the bulk of the GPU is unused. And so if you're doing compute for collision detection, physics or ray-casting for audio during those times you're not really affecting the graphics. You're utilising portions of the GPU that at that instant are otherwise under-utilised. And if you look through the frame you can see that depending on what phase it is, what portion is really available to use for compute.


http://blog.games.com/2013/07/23/sony-explains-how-developers-will-unlock-full-potential-ps4/

Cerny describes how the PS4 will be ready for the future and claims that the full power of the next-gen console will increase as the years go by. He explains what will happen when the PS4 launches as well as what will occur several years down the road.

The interview did get technical, though, so we've devised a list on what was discussed:

• At the beginning of the PS4 cycle, most games will not unlock the PS4′s full potential.
• Earlier PS4 Games will use "straight forward" features of the console, like its visual power and bandwidth.
• Later on, the GPU will be used for many other objectives besides processing graphics
• The GPU can do things like "physics, simulation, collision detecting or ray casting for audio or the like."
• The extra stuff will not make the visuals worse.
• "Some of these phases [within a frame of animation on-screen] don't really use all of the various modules within the GPU."
• When there is free space on the GPU modules, it will have room for other tasks.
• It will "improve the quality of your world's simulation without decreasing the quality of your graphics."

And this is what Sony said in April

http://techreport.com/news/24725/ps4-architect-discusses-console-custom-amd-processor
Cerny says the PS4's custom silicon incorporates not only the CPU and GPU, but also a "large number of other units." The chip has a dedicated audio unit to perform processing for voice chat and multiple audio streams. It also has a hardware block designed explicitly for zlib decompression. The main processor is backed by a secondary chip that enables an ultra-low-power mode for background downloading. In that mode, the CPU and GPU shut down, leaving only the auxiliary chip, system memory, networking, and storage active.

A 256-bit interface links the console's processor to its shared memory pool. According to Cerny, Sony considered a 128-bit implementation paired with on-chip eDRAM but deemed that solution too complex for developers to exploit. Sony has also taken steps to make it easier for developers to use the graphics component for general-purpose computing tasks.

secret sauce!

did i hurt your little feelings? do you get this upset every time somebody says something you dont like that you have to call them pathatic? whats getting sad is the million threads and rumors that have no relevance or truth behind it that say that the xbox one is more powerfull than it really is. we are getting rumor after rumor, theory after theory and they are getting debunked one after one. the fact that all these xbox fans just cant accept that the PS4 is more powerful than the xbox one is sad, what makes it even more sad is that the xbox one is still a powerful console, but its these billions of bogus romurs and silly threads that make the situation rather, yes you guessed it, beyond sad. 

Edit @bolded: this thread is NOT for the xbox "enthousiasts" its for everybody, just because its an xbox related subject does not mean i can connot comment in it and its dedicated for a certain part of the members on the forum. when a thread is made its made for everybody on the forums, thats why we are here. if you want a thread that is for the xbox enthousiasts go to the xbox nation thread. if you cant accept the fact Sony, nintendo and PC fans have the right to express their opinion in xbox related thread maybe you are better off singing up on the forums on xbox.com 

I am having a feeling like I am in an echo chamber with deja vu.  Didn't I read this secret sauce article in another thread on here, or is this the same thread?

Let's see, word I am seeing out of people on the Microsoft forum is that the PS4 and ONE's third party are the same.  So, let's see, I can get AT LEAST the same quality between third-party stuff on both platforms and the PS4 is $100 cheaper?  Am I supposed to be in love with Kinect 2.0 to not get a PS4 instead of a ONE?

Someone fill me in here on what I am missing.  Or, is it Ryse (the answer to God of War on Microsoft platform) or Killer Instinct reboot supposed to make a difference?

Thing is I believe this information has come up in other threads, so it is not new, and is considered suspect.  So, it would be sad to rehash suspect information over and over again, as if cheerleading.  It is also sad that someone who is a videogame player needs to have such information to boost their morale.

1/ which other thread ? If so just signal there is a duplicate.

2/ ... considered suspect ? so you are denying this officially announced chips are a fake or that the interpretation of their use is erroneous ?

3/ as long as the X1 has the best line-up how could morale be low ? if it ends up being the more powerful it´s just a bonus

1. The second GPU was discussed in multiple other threads, including this one:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=168016&page=1

I recall seeing "secret sauce" mentioned in what was another thread, regarding this.

2. The idea of the second chip is considered VERY suspect at this point.

3. Morale IS low, in regards to guys on here who care about sales and rooting for the XBOX ONE.  There has been a failure to come up with competent evidence that the more expensive ONE is superior to the PS4.  People can try to spin Kinect, but the core of people here don't care about it.  If the price points were reverse between the ONE and the PS4, it wouldn't be a big deal.  But it is the opposite of that, so it is an issue.  This isn't just about what one enjoys playing, but whichever one will sell the best.