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sales2099 said:
iamdeath said:
 

I'm sorry but you're factually wrong, the Ps3 was widely known to be vastkly superior with media, it had bluray, but even more so, MKV, AVHCD fils and format support was way better on PS3. A quick trip to the AV forums site, and say the 360 is a better media box..you will get laughed off the forums.

sony is a media company, you know they own movie and TV studios right? Ps3 was a way better media box the 36-0, yet xbox fans act like Sony is just a game machine? sony started the console is also a media device and a game machine. Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period. Sony markets this, realising the other features will be there, but the most sales will come from gamers.

How do you knwo owners will spend more time on their x1's then ps4? Whats next week lotto numbers? Nothing but baseless speculation.

please keep acting like x1 is the only box that does more then gaming, it's funny and sad.

Still waiting for all these "FEATURES" it has over the PS4.

Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles. For those making the jump for 360, it is a  huge selling point. You're saying it's not because MS doesn't have it period.

Why would you need 24 remotes and 20 devices with PS4 ROFL? X1 isn't going to control everything in your houe, just cable box, thats it , 1 remote.....which is a useless feature. people already have more then too many cable options, the x1 isn't replacing that, you still need your regular cable. Idiotic decision by MS to even try to market it. Wonder why they don't anymore? Even they know it was a msitake, thus their drastic change in focus.

Your trying too hard to justify yourself. Sony is a media company, but a money-losing media company. There is a difference. Xbox media capabilities are no slouch, and in terms of media apps, it is more robust then what PS offers.

"Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period"

Ok grandpa. Times are changing. People want consoles that do more then just games. Period. Your percieved golden days of games-only consoles are dead. Deal with it.

"Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles."

Don't know where this comes from but every generation statistics are released that show it is actually the least requested feature, that only the vocal minority moan and whine about it.

These "features" come from Kinect. For gaming its usefulness remains to be seen but for media control, content searching, and friend connectivity, it sets it apart from PS.

LOL, Sony is a media company but a losing money one is relevant one how? They have been profitable for several quarters now and will continue to be , strawman argument, that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Times are not changing, MS reversal shows it. People buy consoles because of games first and foremost, this won't change.

 

Check the PS blog, Backwards compatibility is the most demanded feature, where is your proof it is the least? Simply false. GAmers always ask for backwards compatiblity.

 

The ps3 is more robust media device then the 360 and by a wide margin. The 360 has terrible support for file formats.

 

Kinect voice is not a reason to buy anx1, voice is a gimmick people don;t need. People already have cable from dozens of sources, and with xi you still need your existing cable, that's simply retarded. MS did a reversal and have not really mentioned these features for a reason.  Because they know people buy consoles for gaming period.

 

The x1 has zero of the ps4 andf is more expensive.



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iamdeath said:
sales2099 said:
iamdeath said:
 

I'm sorry but you're factually wrong, the Ps3 was widely known to be vastkly superior with media, it had bluray, but even more so, MKV, AVHCD fils and format support was way better on PS3. A quick trip to the AV forums site, and say the 360 is a better media box..you will get laughed off the forums.

sony is a media company, you know they own movie and TV studios right? Ps3 was a way better media box the 36-0, yet xbox fans act like Sony is just a game machine? sony started the console is also a media device and a game machine. Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period. Sony markets this, realising the other features will be there, but the most sales will come from gamers.

How do you knwo owners will spend more time on their x1's then ps4? Whats next week lotto numbers? Nothing but baseless speculation.

please keep acting like x1 is the only box that does more then gaming, it's funny and sad.

Still waiting for all these "FEATURES" it has over the PS4.

Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles. For those making the jump for 360, it is a  huge selling point. You're saying it's not because MS doesn't have it period.

Why would you need 24 remotes and 20 devices with PS4 ROFL? X1 isn't going to control everything in your houe, just cable box, thats it , 1 remote.....which is a useless feature. people already have more then too many cable options, the x1 isn't replacing that, you still need your regular cable. Idiotic decision by MS to even try to market it. Wonder why they don't anymore? Even they know it was a msitake, thus their drastic change in focus.

Your trying too hard to justify yourself. Sony is a media company, but a money-losing media company. There is a difference. Xbox media capabilities are no slouch, and in terms of media apps, it is more robust then what PS offers.

"Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period"

Ok grandpa. Times are changing. People want consoles that do more then just games. Period. Your percieved golden days of games-only consoles are dead. Deal with it.

"Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles."

Don't know where this comes from but every generation statistics are released that show it is actually the least requested feature, that only the vocal minority moan and whine about it.

These "features" come from Kinect. For gaming its usefulness remains to be seen but for media control, content searching, and friend connectivity, it sets it apart from PS.

LOL, Sony is a media company but a losing money one is relevant one how? They have been profitable for several quarters now and will continue to be , strawman argument, that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Times are not changing, MS reversal shows it. People buy consoles because of games first and foremost, this won't change.

 

Check the PS blog, Backwards compatibility is the most demanded feature, where is your proof it is the least? Simply false. GAmers always ask for backwards compatiblity.

 

The ps3 is more robust media device then the 360 and by a wide margin. The 360 has terrible support for file formats.

 

Kinect voice is not a reason to buy anx1, voice is a gimmick people don;t need. People already have cable from dozens of sources, and with xi you still need your existing cable, that's simply retarded. MS did a reversal and have not really mentioned these features for a reason.  Because they know people buy consoles for gaming period.

 

The x1 has zero of the ps4 andf is more expensive.


Need? You know we don't need most of the things we indulge in. Including video games. I'll take it as a plus with my Xbox 



TheSting said:
iamdeath said:
sales2099 said:
iamdeath said:
 

I'm sorry but you're factually wrong, the Ps3 was widely known to be vastkly superior with media, it had bluray, but even more so, MKV, AVHCD fils and format support was way better on PS3. A quick trip to the AV forums site, and say the 360 is a better media box..you will get laughed off the forums.

sony is a media company, you know they own movie and TV studios right? Ps3 was a way better media box the 36-0, yet xbox fans act like Sony is just a game machine? sony started the console is also a media device and a game machine. Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period. Sony markets this, realising the other features will be there, but the most sales will come from gamers.

How do you knwo owners will spend more time on their x1's then ps4? Whats next week lotto numbers? Nothing but baseless speculation.

please keep acting like x1 is the only box that does more then gaming, it's funny and sad.

Still waiting for all these "FEATURES" it has over the PS4.

Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles. For those making the jump for 360, it is a  huge selling point. You're saying it's not because MS doesn't have it period.

Why would you need 24 remotes and 20 devices with PS4 ROFL? X1 isn't going to control everything in your houe, just cable box, thats it , 1 remote.....which is a useless feature. people already have more then too many cable options, the x1 isn't replacing that, you still need your regular cable. Idiotic decision by MS to even try to market it. Wonder why they don't anymore? Even they know it was a msitake, thus their drastic change in focus.

Your trying too hard to justify yourself. Sony is a media company, but a money-losing media company. There is a difference. Xbox media capabilities are no slouch, and in terms of media apps, it is more robust then what PS offers.

"Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period"

Ok grandpa. Times are changing. People want consoles that do more then just games. Period. Your percieved golden days of games-only consoles are dead. Deal with it.

"Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles."

Don't know where this comes from but every generation statistics are released that show it is actually the least requested feature, that only the vocal minority moan and whine about it.

These "features" come from Kinect. For gaming its usefulness remains to be seen but for media control, content searching, and friend connectivity, it sets it apart from PS.

LOL, Sony is a media company but a losing money one is relevant one how? They have been profitable for several quarters now and will continue to be , strawman argument, that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Times are not changing, MS reversal shows it. People buy consoles because of games first and foremost, this won't change.

 

Check the PS blog, Backwards compatibility is the most demanded feature, where is your proof it is the least? Simply false. GAmers always ask for backwards compatiblity.

 

The ps3 is more robust media device then the 360 and by a wide margin. The 360 has terrible support for file formats.

 

Kinect voice is not a reason to buy anx1, voice is a gimmick people don;t need. People already have cable from dozens of sources, and with xi you still need your existing cable, that's simply retarded. MS did a reversal and have not really mentioned these features for a reason.  Because they know people buy consoles for gaming period.

 

The x1 has zero of the ps4 andf is more expensive.


Need? You know we don't need most of the things we indulge in. Including video games. I'll take it as a plus with my Xbox 

$100 bucks for what a microphone can do. It doesn;t add up to the value.

The PS4 touchpad operating as a mouse is better for navigation.



Oh well I'm glad it does more than a microphone then. Wouldn't want to waste a $100 on just a microphone. 



toadslayer72 said:
Frequency said:
If ever a thread needed locking...


Seriously! Thread locking doesn't happen enough around here IMO.


Why lock a thread when you can just ban everyone that disagrees with the moderators?  (Seriously I am tired of how everyone just gets banned left and right)



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

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TheSting said:
ethomaz said:

TheSting said:

Is this true? I know I'm not interested in anything PS so I don't even open up that forum.

Every thread about PS news I post in this forum have a lot of XB fans comments... same for the threads about XB news with PS fans comments too.

So it is false.


Ok well I'll continue to stay out of what doesn't interest me. Have fun. Thx for some Xbox news that I've seen you post tho

@bolded thats bull and you know it



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kirby007 said:

@bolded thats bull and you know it

Check yourself .



Been done already....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video



sales2099 said:

Your trying too hard to justify yourself. Sony is a media company, but a money-losing media company. There is a difference. Xbox media capabilities are no slouch, and in terms of media apps, it is more robust then what PS offers.

Sonys main media section, Sony pictures, isn`t the sector dragging the overall figures down, but that is besides the point, what bearing does profit margin have on the consoles feature set?

Ok grandpa. Times are changing. People want consoles that do more then just games. Period. Your percieved golden days of games-only consoles are dead. Deal with it.

When the PS3 launched, it was touted as a media center, At the time Microsoft and Nintendo fans decried this and played it off as insignificant, not that the tables are turned Xbox One fans are talking it up and Sony fans are talking it down, times havent changed, excuses have.

Don't know where this comes from but every generation statistics are released that show it is actually the least requested feature, that only the vocal minority moan and whine about it.

Regardless of how big or small a number of consumers request something, if its added, its an additional feature to a hardwares list of benefits, theres no argument to be made here.

These "features" come from Kinect. For gaming its usefulness remains to be seen but for media control, content searching, and friend connectivity, it sets it apart from PS.

The most exciting aspect of media control with Kinect is voice commands, movement detection could and most likely would get old very fast, I know not a single person that still uses the original Kinect for anything other than the few Kinect games they actually own, as such voice commands add a personal touch to the navigation, fortunately, or unfortunately depending on your attitude, those who purchase the PlayStation 4 camera have the potential (and if its seen as a major thing once the Xbox One launches, you can bet your bottom dollar it will be added) to use voice control for navigation and media control too.

I'm excited as much as the next person about the new consoles, but the arguments for and against on VGchartz is getting petty to the point of repitition where people are genuinely pretending certain things dont exist, or bending reality to suit their arguments to one up each other.

Its stupid, people really need to stop, we sit around playing the latest games on the Ps3 and 360, do you care that these consoles are a significant step in power below the new twins? it would be nice if the games you were currently playing were on the new console, yes, but youre still playing them, youre still enjoying them, so who really cares if the PS4 is 1% faster or 50% faster, owners of each are going to enjoy the games they each get regardless, and from what we have seen so far, wether if be running at 720p or 1080p, they look great.

Honestly, anyone would thing we were stood in a school playground with all the squabbling




Your trying too hard to justify yourself. Sony is a media company, but a money-losing media company. There is a difference. Xbox media capabilities are no slouch, and in terms of media apps, it is more robust then what PS offers.

"Newsflash, most people buy coonsoles for games and nothing more. period"

Ok grandpa. Times are changing. People want consoles that do more then just games. Period. Your percieved golden days of games-only consoles are dead. Deal with it.

"Backwards compatibility is important, it is the most requested feature of next gen consoles."

Don't know where this comes from but every generation statistics are released that show it is actually the least requested feature, that only the vocal minority moan and whine about it.

These "features" come from Kinect. For gaming its usefulness remains to be seen but for media control, content searching, and friend connectivity, it sets it apart from PS.

LOL, Sony is a media company but a losing money one is relevant one how? They have been profitable for several quarters now and will continue to be , strawman argument, that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Times are not changing, MS reversal shows it. People buy consoles because of games first and foremost, this won't change.

 

Check the PS blog, Backwards compatibility is the most demanded feature, where is your proof it is the least? Simply false. GAmers always ask for backwards compatiblity.

 

The ps3 is more robust media device then the 360 and by a wide margin. The 360 has terrible support for file formats.

 

Kinect voice is not a reason to buy anx1, voice is a gimmick people don;t need. People already have cable from dozens of sources, and with xi you still need your existing cable, that's simply retarded. MS did a reversal and have not really mentioned these features for a reason.  Because they know people buy consoles for gaming period.

 

The x1 has zero of the ps4 andf is more expensive.


Very well said!  If people really wanted the Xbox One so bad, MS would not have copied litterally every single move and feature the PS4 has.  At this point it has gotten pathetic.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]