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this thread is so funny. i love the console war.
the funniest thing is:
xbox fans say "yoshida mustn't say millionS, because i don't believe they reached 2 millionS yet"
and
ps4 fans say "he is allowed to say millionS, because it is mathematical usus".

and no one cares about if they have 2 millions or not. it is just about pissing on each others feet. i love that.



must-have-list for platforms i don't own yet:

WiiU: Donkey Kong

XBone: Dead Rising 3, Ryse

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areason said:
Imaginedvl said:

Dude... 1.000001 million != millions lol... 
2 millions and more == millions...

Even if he was effectively trolling, you are plain wrong :)

It is greater than 1, hence plural allowing you to add the s.

The only language that i am aware off that considers million starting from 2 million is french. 

So you think that the ps4 has over 2 million pre orders? 

Yes, I do believe the pre-orders are higher than 2 millions.



Lol at all the arguments. By millions they probably mean in the millions. So anything above 1 million.



Gehirnkrampf said:
this thread is so funny. i love the console war.
the funniest thing is:
xbox fans say "yoshida mustn't say millionS, because i don't believe they reached 2 millionS yet"
and
ps4 fans say "he is allowed to say millionS, because it is mathematical usus".

and no one cares about if they have 2 millions or not. it is just about pissing on each others feet. i love that.

Actually you got it wrong; try to read instead of assuming next time :)
It is a PS4 fan who is claiming that "2 millions" may actually refer to "1.000.001"...

And I did not see anyone (from both side) pissed about that...
Just talking about "million" vs "millions" and which one is grammaticaly correct... Sorry to burst your hopes about people pissing on each others feet, I guess that this is ruinning your fun now :(



MDMAlliance said:
pr3st00 said:
areason said:

it is greater then 1 hence not singular allowing you to add the s at the end. 


You're right (therefore I'm wrong):

http://www.woodwardenglish.com/million-or-millions/

For an unspecified ammount which is still in the millions, we say millions indeed. Similar reason why we say "one million and a half", in this case it's exactly one million (plus half one).


Not sure if you're saying what I think you're saying, but if you want to say an unspecified amount that is less than 2,000,000 and more than 1,000,000, you don't say "millions."  You would say that it's "over 1 million."  

So if the population of a city is 1,350,000, you could say that the population is "over 1 million."   Usually people take that as less than 2 million.  If you say the population is "in the millions," they would think it would be at the very least 2m or more.  Usually people would think like 5m.


That's the case for my native language, Portuguese. Whatever unity you're using should be in accordance to what comes before the comma:

1,9 milhao (or 1,9 million)

and

2,1 milhoes (or 2,1 millions)

What I understood from reading the link I provided is that English works differently.



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So in  the OP is he hinting that the pre-order ratio is rather close between PS4/XboxOne? Where as Europe they have a higher percentage marketshare of pre-orders than they do in NA?



it's a hint basically saying its over 2 million.....

11 does not mean 10's because there is only one 10 in that number
101 does not mean 100's because there is only one, 100
1001 does not means 1000's because there is only 1000

2 thousand
3 thousand
4 thousand, is thousands because there is more than one 1 thousand

ps4 is at over 2 million pre orders!



I think it is safe to acknowledge that the word "millions" = 2+ million. What can you debate about that?



landguy1 said:
I think it is safe to acknowledge that the word "millions" = 2+ million. What can you debate about that?

Nothing to debate. This is what I learnt (in late 1970s England) in classic British English:

The term "in the millions" means a number anywhere from 1'000'001 to 999'999'999, but usually is interpreted as an unspecified number <2'000'000

Case closed.



nightsurge said:

So in  the OP is he hinting that the pre-order ratio is rather close between PS4/XboxOne? Where as Europe they have a higher percentage marketshare of pre-orders than they do in NA?


he said the ratio between NA/Europe is about the same as it was with ps3 which i'll take to mean there are more ps4 pre-orders in europe than ps4 pre-orders in NA as that is the ratio ps3 had.

the part about NA being bigger (and from above we assume a smaller # of pre-orders) is probably leading to the market share comment.  if NA is bigger NA should have more pre-orders right?  but he clearly stated they are still "wining" which suggests to me the pre-orders are close probably between the ps4/xbone in NA with a smallish margin in ps4's favor but ps4 is winning handedly in europe.

considering ps3's performance, this is fantstic news for ps4.  an early lead in MS's strongest markets will put sony far ahead WW.