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Yes/Nope?

Yes 131 20.06%
 
NO 294 45.02%
 
I want both to do well 206 31.55%
 
I did want it to do better.... 10 1.53%
 
Other ( post below) 11 1.68%
 
Total:652
jake_the_fake1 said:
curl-6 said:

Pikmin 3, Nintendoland, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, X, all designed very clearly for a big screen experience.

Mario & Luigi, Kid Icarus, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc, clearly designed for a small screen. Plus, the 3DS versions of franhcises like  Mario Kart are similarly simplified for their handheld iterations, made smmaller and more "intimate", like the difference between TV and movies.

You are right, there are some games on the home console which have yet to make the jump to handheld and visa versa, however, I just required a few games to disprove your counter point "3DS and Wii U do not share an identical library", what i actually said was " yet the 3DS and WiiU share almost identical first party library.", They maybe 'simplified', 'smaller, and more 'intamate' as you say, but they are fundementally the same games, in any case you confirmed what i've already stated above.

 To use your TV/Movie analogy, The Stargate movie spawned the stargate series, although one was a movie and one was a TV series, they are fundementally the same when it comes to content and universe, sure one is more action heavy and the other more character driven but one can not look at both and then come to the conclusion that one doesn't containt what makes stargate, stargate. Same goes for Buffy the vampire slayer, but then you also have TV series turned into Movies, like the X-files  and the A-Team.

If done right, is it a bad thing to have a home console experiance on a handheld similarly to how Movie can spawn a TV series?

As I've said before, to me it isn't, I loved the the Uncharted series along with Killzone on my PS3, So when I played Uncharted golden abyss, I had the same experiance as the larger screen but with a new story, the game suspend on my PSvita made the game an easy pick up and go game, played it while going to work. I'll now be having the same experiance with Killzone mercenary.

I didn't confirm anything. Games from the same franchises =/= the same games. Differences in content matter more than the words in the title.

And you're in the minority then; sales have never really reflected a widespread desire for modern-home-console type games on handhelds. Most people prefer to play those type of games on big screens.



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No, who could ever want that? I hope the Vita do better but still.



Yes, I want them both to do amazing!

Vita is really under rated too. Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Wipeout 2048, Gravity Rush, and LBPV are such amazing games that really deserved better reviews and better sales. Heck LBPV is even much better than LBP2 and Wipeout 2048 is also the best in the series.



Train wreck said:

You forgot Sonic Lost World, Mario and Sonic at the Winter games, Lego City Undercover the upcoming Angry Birds ...seems like a lot of sharing to me.

I know your lack of insight is strong when it comes to trolling Nintendo, but:

Sonic Lost World and Mario & Sonic will be completely different games.

Angry Birds? Really?



morenoingrato said:
Train wreck said:

You forgot Sonic Lost World, Mario and Sonic at the Winter games, Lego City Undercover the upcoming Angry Birds ...seems like a lot of sharing to me.

I know your lack of insight is strong when it comes to trolling Nintendo, but:

Sonic Lost World and Mario & Sonic will be completely different games.

Angry Birds? Really?

I never mentioned anything about gameplay, im just pointing out that the two systems share many of the same titles for 2013.



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curl-6 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
curl-6 said:

Pikmin 3, Nintendoland, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, X, all designed very clearly for a big screen experience.

Mario & Luigi, Kid Icarus, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc, clearly designed for a small screen. Plus, the 3DS versions of franhcises like  Mario Kart are similarly simplified for their handheld iterations, made smmaller and more "intimate", like the difference between TV and movies.

You are right, there are some games on the home console which have yet to make the jump to handheld and visa versa, however, I just required a few games to disprove your counter point "3DS and Wii U do not share an identical library", what i actually said was " yet the 3DS and WiiU share almost identical first party library.", They maybe 'simplified', 'smaller, and more 'intamate' as you say, but they are fundementally the same games, in any case you confirmed what i've already stated above.

 To use your TV/Movie analogy, The Stargate movie spawned the stargate series, although one was a movie and one was a TV series, they are fundementally the same when it comes to content and universe, sure one is more action heavy and the other more character driven but one can not look at both and then come to the conclusion that one doesn't containt what makes stargate, stargate. Same goes for Buffy the vampire slayer, but then you also have TV series turned into Movies, like the X-files  and the A-Team.

If done right, is it a bad thing to have a home console experiance on a handheld similarly to how Movie can spawn a TV series?

As I've said before, to me it isn't, I loved the the Uncharted series along with Killzone on my PS3, So when I played Uncharted golden abyss, I had the same experiance as the larger screen but with a new story, the game suspend on my PSvita made the game an easy pick up and go game, played it while going to work. I'll now be having the same experiance with Killzone mercenary.

I didn't confirm anything. Games from the same franchises =/= the same games. Differences in content matter more than the words in the title.

And you're in the minority then; sales have never really reflected a widespread desire for modern-home-console type games on handhelds. Most people prefer to play those type of games on big screens.

You seem to be oblivious to the obvious and it seems not matter how much I try you seem to be unable to grasp any of my points I made about home console expiriance on portables, despite me pointing to Nintendo games that do just that and have done very well from themsels, and depsite me being an advocate for that because it broadens whats available on the platform, which at the end of the day is a good thing for consumers. Yet you brush it aside as if that was a bad thing but never explain...so perhaps I should let you be, as they saying goes "ignorance is bliss" ** .

Before I let you be, please indulge me one last time by answering my unanswered question:  If done right, is it a bad thing to have a home console experiance on a handheld similarly to how Movie can spawn a TV series?

 

** (not that your irgnorant cuz I don't know you, but to imply that you wish to live in your own bubble despite the reality that's around you, so if your are offended by that saying,  then I apologise as that was not my intention.)



Train wreck said:

I never mentioned anything about gameplay, im just pointing out that the two systems share many of the same titles for 2013.

They are not the same titles. They might as well change the names because they are built differently from the ground up. And Angry Birds is a very stupid and irrelevant example.



jake_the_fake1 said:

You seem to be oblivious to the obvious and it seems not matter how much I try you seem to be unable to grasp any of my points I made about home console expiriance on portables, despite me pointing to Nintendo games that do just that and have done very well from themsels, and depsite me being an advocate for that because it broadens whats available on the platform, which at the end of the day is a good thing for consumers. Yet you brush it aside as if that was a bad thing but never explain...so perhaps I should let you be, as they saying goes "ignorance is bliss" ** .

Before I let you be, please indulge me one last time by answering my unanswered question:  If done right, is it a bad thing to have a home console experiance on a handheld similarly to how Movie can spawn a TV series?

 

** (not that your irgnorant cuz I don't know you, but to imply that you wish to live in your own bubble despite the reality that's around you, so if your are offended by that saying,  then I apologise as that was not my intention.)

I'm not oblivious to your points, I just don't agree with them.

A home console experience on a handheld isn't the same as a movies spawning a TV series, it's more like a TV show being released to cinemas. Is it necessarily a bad thing? No. But the market does tend to prefer more bite-sized, intimate handheld offerings.

That doesn't mean you have to, though. My tastes aren't reflected by the market either.



curl-6 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:

You seem to be oblivious to the obvious and it seems not matter how much I try you seem to be unable to grasp any of my points I made about home console expiriance on portables, despite me pointing to Nintendo games that do just that and have done very well from themsels, and depsite me being an advocate for that because it broadens whats available on the platform, which at the end of the day is a good thing for consumers. Yet you brush it aside as if that was a bad thing but never explain...so perhaps I should let you be, as they saying goes "ignorance is bliss" ** .

Before I let you be, please indulge me one last time by answering my unanswered question:  If done right, is it a bad thing to have a home console experiance on a handheld similarly to how Movie can spawn a TV series?

 

** (not that your irgnorant cuz I don't know you, but to imply that you wish to live in your own bubble despite the reality that's around you, so if your are offended by that saying,  then I apologise as that was not my intention.)

I'm not oblivious to your points, I just don't agree with them.

A home console experience on a handheld isn't the same as a movies spawning a TV series, it's more like a TV show being released to cinemas. Is it necessarily a bad thing? No. But the market does tend to prefer more bite-sized, intimate handheld offerings.

That doesn't mean you have to, though. My tastes aren't reflected by the market either.

Thank you for providing an aswear to my question, much appriciated, though I had a feeling that would be your answer :)

I would agree that the market does tend to prefer more bite-sized offerings, this is why these small bite-sized are so popular on smart phones and also why smartphone market is exponentially growing, looking at japan the smartphone gaming market has now apparently overtaken traditional games hardware/software market, look at Candy crush, it's become the latest craze.



i have had both, once i got done with the nintendo games for it i was done. i have yet to let my vita collect dust and ive had it a year longer.
its a great system, i love getting trophies, and some games look great on it for a handheld! plus i cant wait to use it with my ps4. i never really gave a shit what others think about the vita. they can sit and rotate for all i care.