johnlucas said:
I argued that Nintendo's standards made the 3rd parties a better game developer in the first place which shows how their 3rd party games once stood as equals to Nintendo's 1st party.
This doesn't make much sense. Look at how much Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, and Castlevania improved when they made the jump to Playstation. FFVII is still considered one of the greatest games of all time, same goes with Metal Gear Solid or Symphony of the Night.
"Hard to develop for" is an excuse. If the opportunity was ripe, they will DEAL with those hardships because of the potential returns.Developers had heart once upon a time.
The opportunity isn't ripe. 3rd party games sell terribly on Nintendo platforms.
Where there's a will, there's a way. There ARE limits but I guarantee those developers didn't even approach those limits with Wii.
They weren't trying to. Instead they made excuses instead of becoming a part of a massive money-making opportunity.
That's why they have to layoff so many folks & go bankrupt.
Many 3rd parties have given the WiiU a shot, and look how it turned out. The WiiU version of COD Ghosts sold 0.3% of the total game's sales.
Wii U has a VERY easy architecture to create games on yet you still don't see many of the 3rd party publishers/developers flocking to it.
It has nothing to do with "easy or hard to develop for". It has always been politics.
No, it's because their games don't sell on Nintendo platforms.
No, I just don't believe "casual" & "hardcore" are accurate terms to describe those demographics.
There are just gamers. Some gamers are sports gamers. Some gamers are RPG gamers. Some gamers play a little of everything.
Girl gamers don't necessarily play Style Savvy & fashion games. Guy gamers don't necessarily shy away from Cooking Mama.
Some girls like to play Madden & First-Person Shooters. Some guys like dating sims. It's all over the board.
But if you make it like Guy gamers play this & Girl gamers play that, that's when you fail to see the real demographics.
Demographics exist but Casual & Hardcore are not demographics. They're BS marketing divisions.
I'm not sure why these terms bother you so much. They're just a way to describe a certain gamer. What should we call a person who only plays Angry Birds on their phone? Should we just call them gamers? Well why don't they play Skyrim or Mario? I mean if all gamers are the same shouldn't we all enjoy the same thing?
We got a company who tried to do away with game ownership/trade/resale with the XBox One & you're so down on a company that tried their damndest to restore customer & retailer confidence in the whole videogame business.
This didn't happen. Stop saying it.
And to show that this intention IS genuine (as if their conduct doesn't already show it) & that the results ARE genuine, I punchline the topic with the N64 Kids hollering ecstatically euphorically over the Nintendo 64.
That's a real video. That's a real reaction. And that's why Nintendo will always remain the leader of the business.
Except during the N64 and GCN era.
While a Wii U version of a particular game may not be the best-selling of the versions, you GUARANTEE not to get any business by not putting the game on the platform at all.
And after awhile if you keep not stocking your product in Nintendo's stores, those Nintendo customers will just buy other products & get used to them.
No, they'll just buy other consoles.
Any heartless company that you're proposing Nintendo to be would stop giving a damn & do exactly what Microsoft gets rewarded on doing.
When people pay for online like with XBox Live why in the hell would Nintendo insist on a free service like the Nintendo Network?
Because Nintendo's online service is complete shit and behind an entire generation compared to their competitors. Did you know Nintendo games are still tied to the hardware and not the account? That's PS2 level shit bro.
They were thinking about changing to a paid model. Seems they weren't appreciated for keeping it free.
In the end, they said no, it's free.
If Nintendo had the audacity to charge for their garbage online service then I would have gone crazy.
Nintendo is a company with integrity. These kind of businesses still exist as hard as it is for you to believe.
With no valid challengers in the handheld realm, it would be easy for Nintendo to artificially jack up the prices.
They did have competitors, why do you think Nintendo always kept their handhelds cheap? To compete with the more expensive handhelds like the PSP, Gamegear, and Lynx.
The honest truth is Nintendo gives us a bargain. The best developer in the world selling their high quality works for a low price.
Is that why their games rarely drop in price?
I showed the link to Metallicube's post. It's right there.
At last, Nintendo (and Best Buy) have convinced this veteran cynical Nintendo fan to cave in and pick up a Wii U. My impressions.
Who cares? I'm sure many Nintendo fans got converted to Playstation or Xbox this gen.
I look at your signature & how you have not changed it.
While the hecklers are lambasting me about the 12 million call, I see you have 11.5 million in your year-end prediction.
Virtually the same number & you're holding it until the end just like I'm doing.
I'm gonna find it funny in a few years to see many of the people who ran down Wii U start championing it in the coming years.
Yeah & I'm predicting you're gonna be one of them, Mummelmann. Doggone right.
Right now you're just an antagonist for antagonist's sake. You just wanna argue for the sake of arguing.
You think he's arguing with you just for the sake of being an "antagonist"? We're all here because your posts make no sense and we can't wait to see your predictions come crashing down. Though I'm sure you'll just say something like the revolution has been postponed and Nintendo's next console will be the one to dominate.
Just like many crowed doom & gloom for the 3DS & then changed their tune as the library built up, the same will happen for the Wii U.
Yes because the 3DS actually improved. The WiiU has not.
Kinect Sports to answer Wii Sports. PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale to answer Super Smash Bros.
The examples are too numerous to list. I'll be here all day. The controllers they use are another example.
Nintendo's imprint all over that & so much more.
Because Nintendo has never copied the competition right? That pro controller for the WiiU looks NOTHING like the 360 controller.
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