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ps4tw said:
Mummelmann said:
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Looking at the sales for the ps4 and xb1 I cant see how the wiiu is going to shift 8 million in less than a month. Thats just crazy talk. 


Even the 360 and PS3 are down week-on-week, the PS4 and One are eating most of the home console market and will keep on doing so. Based on normal percentages and weekly boosts during holidays, the Wii U is following a fairly typical pattern (massive advertising only helped it remain somewhat normal as far as sales trends go) but the baseline is just so low that the results are underwhelming. I wonder what it can do during Black Friday week, I think I had my sights on 350-400k max, that could be hard given that only one major retailer even has a Wii U special offer and the Europe and Japan numbers are terrible, it hasn't even sold one million in Europe yet. If Super Mario 3D World, Black Friday and massive advertising won't amount to more than one decent sales week this year, I long for John Lucas' explanation in here.

There's just no room for the Wii U on the market, squeezed between news value and longevity and with poor support. Of course, a lot of people are going to make a huge deal out of the totals being above the PS4 and about on par with 360. Nintendomination indeed.



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Mummelmann said:
ps4tw said:
Mummelmann said:
Tagged for the very near future. Updates in here could be amazing, one way or the other.


Looking at the sales for the ps4 and xb1 I cant see how the wiiu is going to shift 8 million in less than a month. Thats just crazy talk. 


Even the 360 and PS3 are down week-on-week, the PS4 and One are eating most of the home console market and will keep on doing so. Based on normal percentages and weekly boosts during holidays, the Wii U is following a fairly typical pattern (massive advertising only helped it remain somewhat normal as far as sales trends go) but the baseline is just so low that the results are underwhelming. I wonder what it can do during Black Friday week, I think I had my sights on 350-400k max, that could be hard given that only one major retailer even has a Wii U special offer and the Europe and Japan numbers are terrible, it hasn't even sold one million in Europe yet. If Super Mario 3D World, Black Friday and massive advertising won't amount to more than one decent sales week this year, I long for John Lucas' explanation in here.

There's just no room for the Wii U on the market, squeezed between news value and longevity and with poor support. Of course, a lot of people are going to make a huge deal out of the totals being above the PS4 and about on par with 360. Nintendomination indeed.


Yep no argument there. I would say that the wiiu will do 100k if its lucky this week, maybe 150k at a squeeze just because the hype of the xb1 and ps4 has dwarfed it.  I think in 3 months, maybe 4, at least one of the newly released consoles will have overtaken its lifetime sales. 



4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.

We'll know for sure next week, Black Friday is the biggest week of the year. If WiiU doesn't sell above 850k that week then it's sure as heck not doing it any other week left in the year. Also Nintendo will likely confirm their BF numbers on monday/tuesday.



 

ps4tw said:
Mummelmann said:
ps4tw said:
Mummelmann said:
Tagged for the very near future. Updates in here could be amazing, one way or the other.


Looking at the sales for the ps4 and xb1 I cant see how the wiiu is going to shift 8 million in less than a month. Thats just crazy talk. 


Even the 360 and PS3 are down week-on-week, the PS4 and One are eating most of the home console market and will keep on doing so. Based on normal percentages and weekly boosts during holidays, the Wii U is following a fairly typical pattern (massive advertising only helped it remain somewhat normal as far as sales trends go) but the baseline is just so low that the results are underwhelming. I wonder what it can do during Black Friday week, I think I had my sights on 350-400k max, that could be hard given that only one major retailer even has a Wii U special offer and the Europe and Japan numbers are terrible, it hasn't even sold one million in Europe yet. If Super Mario 3D World, Black Friday and massive advertising won't amount to more than one decent sales week this year, I long for John Lucas' explanation in here.

There's just no room for the Wii U on the market, squeezed between news value and longevity and with poor support. Of course, a lot of people are going to make a huge deal out of the totals being above the PS4 and about on par with 360. Nintendomination indeed.


Yep no argument there. I would say that the wiiu will do 100k if its lucky this week, maybe 150k at a squeeze just because the hype of the xb1 and ps4 has dwarfed it.  I think in 3 months, maybe 4, at least one of the newly released consoles will have overtaken its lifetime sales. 

WiiU did over 100k week ending november 24. What makes you think WiiU will be lucky doing 100k this week? The week of Black Friday? Really?



Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.


What do you reckon for Black Friday week? Both the PS3 and 360 were in the 800-1100k territory last year to my recollection. If the Wii U can pull 350k, that would be pretty good but require a 300+% boost (the 360 is crazy is US and got about 140% boost this week last year, for reference). For reference; I think the Wii U's best week ever was about 560k, I have mentioned it never getting close to that number again, I guess next week will tell us for sure.

Full week of SM3DW, Black Friday and massive advertising should push a whole lot of consoles, if it doesn't; well then... people in this thread will still insist that a massive recovery is imminent and that victory is at hand.



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Mummelmann said:
Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.


What do you reckon for Black Friday week? Both the PS3 and 360 were in the 800-1100k territory last year to my recollection. If the Wii U can pull 350k, that would be pretty good but require a 300+% boost (the 360 is crazy is US and got about 140% boost this week last year, for reference). For reference; I think the Wii U's best week ever was about 560k, I have mentioned it never getting close to that number again, I guess next week will tell us for sure.

Full week of SM3DW, Black Friday and massive advertising should push a whole lot of consoles, if it doesn't; well then... people in this thread will still insist that a massive recovery is imminent and that victory is at hand.

I really don't know, around 300k? Same as you really. Fact of the matter is it needs to be around 1m for the 10m figure to stand a chance. I just don't see how a console can go from selling so low to being such a mega hit in the space of a week ....

Oh, apparantly we're needy for wanting an answer from JL about his failed predictions :D



 

Seece said:
Mummelmann said:
Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.


What do you reckon for Black Friday week? Both the PS3 and 360 were in the 800-1100k territory last year to my recollection. If the Wii U can pull 350k, that would be pretty good but require a 300+% boost (the 360 is crazy is US and got about 140% boost this week last year, for reference). For reference; I think the Wii U's best week ever was about 560k, I have mentioned it never getting close to that number again, I guess next week will tell us for sure.

Full week of SM3DW, Black Friday and massive advertising should push a whole lot of consoles, if it doesn't; well then... people in this thread will still insist that a massive recovery is imminent and that victory is at hand.

I really don't know, around 300k? Same as you really. Fact of the matter is it needs to be around 1m for the 10m figure to stand a chance. I just don't see how a console can go from selling so low to being such a mega hit in the space of a week ....

Oh, apparantly we're needy for wanting an answer from JL about his failed predictions :D


We need to consider the possibility of undertracking. By about 70-90%. Next we'll hearing about how unreliable vgchartz numbers are, until November NPD, that is.



Mummelmann said:
Seece said:
Mummelmann said:
Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.


What do you reckon for Black Friday week? Both the PS3 and 360 were in the 800-1100k territory last year to my recollection. If the Wii U can pull 350k, that would be pretty good but require a 300+% boost (the 360 is crazy is US and got about 140% boost this week last year, for reference). For reference; I think the Wii U's best week ever was about 560k, I have mentioned it never getting close to that number again, I guess next week will tell us for sure.

Full week of SM3DW, Black Friday and massive advertising should push a whole lot of consoles, if it doesn't; well then... people in this thread will still insist that a massive recovery is imminent and that victory is at hand.

I really don't know, around 300k? Same as you really. Fact of the matter is it needs to be around 1m for the 10m figure to stand a chance. I just don't see how a console can go from selling so low to being such a mega hit in the space of a week ....

Oh, apparantly we're needy for wanting an answer from JL about his failed predictions :D


We need to consider the possibility of undertracking. By about 70-90%. Next we'll hearing about how unreliable vgchartz numbers are, until November NPD, that is.

Less than 2 weeks for NPD. I can't imagine they're far off going by October, which was 50k ...



 

Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.

We'll know for sure next week, Black Friday is the biggest week of the year. If WiiU doesn't sell above 850k that week then it's sure as heck not doing it any other week left in the year. Also Nintendo will likely confirm their BF numbers on monday/tuesday.

Well that 6th week goes into 2014.  Even if we count it, it has historically been a lot closer to the sales the week before Black Friday than the weeks after.  If that happens here, the Wii U will need to average 1.16m the other five weeks.



Mummelmann said:
Seece said:

4.09m with 6 weeks sales data left of the year.


Lucas, Zero and varius others now expect 850k a week to reach 10m by the end of the year.


What do you reckon for Black Friday week? Both the PS3 and 360 were in the 800-1100k territory last year to my recollection. If the Wii U can pull 350k, that would be pretty good but require a 300+% boost (the 360 is crazy is US and got about 140% boost this week last year, for reference). For reference; I think the Wii U's best week ever was about 560k, I have mentioned it never getting close to that number again, I guess next week will tell us for sure.

Full week of SM3DW, Black Friday and massive advertising should push a whole lot of consoles, if it doesn't; well then... people in this thread will still insist that a massive recovery is imminent and that victory is at hand.

Week ending 28th nov: 1 092 826 (Black Friday)

Week ending 05th dec: 1 545 539

Week ending 12th dec: 1 383 186

Week ending 19th dec: 1 752 734

Week ending 26th dec: 1 830 417

Total: 7 604 696

You remember this from 2009? Wii sales exploded to the stratosphere. None imagined this could ever happen, but it did. Nintendo did basically what they've done now: Buy premium retail space, pricedrop, and a Mario game combined with heavy marketing. Will it work once more? :p