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Incubi on 26 November 2013

In other news. Nintendo's key retail partners had their stores upgraded dramatically this past week. Overall, Nintendo had a modest in-store presence not long ago. However, recently when people went to purchase ALBW or SM3DW, that seemed to have changed massively. Do any of you know what's going on here? 

Here's some pictures:

Two aisles wide, all three 3ds models, 2 Wii U stations with another wii u station at another end cap, lots of signage, some floating boxes and a giant mario standee.

Anecdotally, I noticed something similar when shopping for ALBW in my hometown this past friday. There are 4 retailers dealing in games where i live; Ringo(massive Nintendo presence - no PS360 anywhere), Brio(same). Both are toy-stores, mind.

Elkjop(Nintendo had premium shelfspace for all their products), Spaceworld(Same). Both are electronic stores.

So - do anyone know whats going on here?

 



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Fusioncode on 26 November 2013
impertinence said:
Fusioncode said:
impertinence said:
Fusioncode said:

Numbers are precisely the point! If Nintendo is going to dominate, they're going to need the sales. Where are the sales! The PS4 has them, and the XBO as well. You could make a pretty strong case for either of them dominating this gen. But WiiU?! What does it have? It's been out for a year and hasn't even hit 4 million. That's below even the most pessimistic of predictions. 

LUCAS MADE A SALES PREDICTION FOR THE WIIU. IT WAS WRONG. SIMPLE AS THAT. He was so condident over his predictions. He couldn't even acknowledge the fact that the WiiU might fall short. Which it did, and that's an understatement. Now he's adjusting his numbers to ten million by year's end, which won't happen either. Lucas has refused to come out here and eat some well deserved crow so he deserves to get lambasted.  


Bolded: You could. Go ahead and do it. John Lucas already did it for the Wii U, with less ammunition, give it your best crack.

Also, again, I know he made a prediction, I know it will end up being waaay too high. My point is that it's pretty irrelevant. Afterall, if the prediction misses the 2013 mark but everything else comes true, is the original crazy claim now worthless because the Wii U took off 6 months later than predicted? And please, don't take this as me thinking the Wii U will sell 240 million units.

They had the two biggest console launches in history. Hype is through the roof for both consoles. The WiiU is barely a competitor. Titanfall will be a huge system seller for XBO, as will Infamous Second Son for PS4. Unlike the WiiU, they're both going to have solid 3rd party support so no massive game droughts. Add in some indie support, they should easily take the top two spots this gen. Both the PS4 and XBO will outsell the WiiU by April, and that's a conservative estimate. 

There you go. I don't need 800 paragraphs of fanboy drivel to make an argument. 

Yes, you made an aregument for it. The challenge was to make a strong case for it though. If I am correct, your strong case reduces to this:

The PS4 and Xbox One have great hype, Wii U has no hype. PS4 and Xbox One will have 3rd party support. Wii U will not have 3rd party support. This situation will continue forever.

Seems to me this case relies heavily on projecting the snap shot of the launch week for both latecommers and doesn't take into a count a number of possible variables. The way I see it, there are two possible winners of this gen: PS4 or Wii U. PS4 will beat the Xbox One if it becomes a reace for the hardcore. They sell all over the world and is the darling of the mature gamers. If Nintendo pulls another rabbit or two out of their hat it will be last gen all over again. Yes, I assigned that much value to the strength of Nintendo's software that I don't discount the possibility that they might win the gen on the strength of their own software and ideas again. I don't think they will, but I am not going to sit here and pretend that it can't happen.

I don't see what else I should say about the PS or XBO. Let the sales do the talking, and those launch numbers are yelling pretty loudly at me. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

impertinence on 26 November 2013
Fusioncode said:

I don't see what else I should say about the PS or XBO. Let the sales do the talking, and those launch numbers are yelling pretty loudly at me. 

They are yelling loudly at me as well. But I hear "This gen hardware is even more frontloaded just like software has proved to become". Let me guess what they scream at you: "Demand for these systems are stronger than anything else ever released!".

Am I right?



Lonely_Dolphin on 26 November 2013
Incubi said:

In other news. Nintendo's key retail partners had their stores upgraded dramatically this past week. Overall, Nintendo had a modest in-store presence not long ago. However, recently when people went to purchase ALBW or SM3DW, that seemed to have changed massively. Do any of you know what's going on here?

Two aisles wide, all three 3ds models, 2 Wii U stations with another wii u station at another end cap, lots of signage, some floating boxes and a giant mario standee.

Anecdotally, I noticed something similar when shopping for ALBW in my hometown this past friday. There are 4 retailers dealing in games where i live; Ringo(massive Nintendo presence - no PS360 anywhere), Brio(same). Both are toy-stores, mind.

Elkjop(Nintendo had premium shelfspace for all their products), Spaceworld(Same). Both are electronic stores.

So - do anyone know whats going on here?

 



Nintendo bought more shelf space duh!

chakkra on 26 November 2013

This.. is.. the craziest..  wall of text I've ever read in my life. BY FAR!



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Incubi on 26 November 2013
Einsam_Delphin said:
Incubi said:

In other news. Nintendo's key retail partners had their stores upgraded dramatically this past week. Overall, Nintendo had a modest in-store presence not long ago. However, recently when people went to purchase ALBW or SM3DW, that seemed to have changed massively. Do any of you know what's going on here?

Two aisles wide, all three 3ds models, 2 Wii U stations with another wii u station at another end cap, lots of signage, some floating boxes and a giant mario standee.

Anecdotally, I noticed something similar when shopping for ALBW in my hometown this past friday. There are 4 retailers dealing in games where i live; Ringo(massive Nintendo presence - no PS360 anywhere), Brio(same). Both are toy-stores, mind.

Elkjop(Nintendo had premium shelfspace for all their products), Spaceworld(Same). Both are electronic stores.

So - do anyone know whats going on here?

Nintendo bought more shelf space duh!

Really? And i thought i entered an alternate reality where Nintendo was all powerful, hehe! What do you think this move will do for sales of Nintendo products combined with the recent onslaught of TV-commercials? Didn't they do something similar at this time in 2009? 



Fusioncode on 26 November 2013
impertinence said:
Fusioncode said:

I don't see what else I should say about the PS or XBO. Let the sales do the talking, and those launch numbers are yelling pretty loudly at me. 

They are yelling loudly at me as well. But I hear "This gen hardware is even more frontloaded just like software has proved to become". Let me guess what they scream at you: "Demand for these systems are stronger than anything else ever released!".

Am I right?

I guess time will tell who was right. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Lonely_Dolphin on 26 November 2013
Incubi said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
Incubi said:

In other news. Nintendo's key retail partners had their stores upgraded dramatically this past week. Overall, Nintendo had a modest in-store presence not long ago. However, recently when people went to purchase ALBW or SM3DW, that seemed to have changed massively. Do any of you know what's going on here?

Two aisles wide, all three 3ds models, 2 Wii U stations with another wii u station at another end cap, lots of signage, some floating boxes and a giant mario standee.

Anecdotally, I noticed something similar when shopping for ALBW in my hometown this past friday. There are 4 retailers dealing in games where i live; Ringo(massive Nintendo presence - no PS360 anywhere), Brio(same). Both are toy-stores, mind.

Elkjop(Nintendo had premium shelfspace for all their products), Spaceworld(Same). Both are electronic stores.

So - do anyone know whats going on here?

Nintendo bought more shelf space duh!

Really? And i thought i entered an alternate reality where Nintendo was all powerful, hehe! What do you think this move will do for sales of Nintendo products combined with the recent onslaught of TV-commercials? Didn't they do something similar at this time in 2009? 



Like retailers would willing give such a poorly selling product more shelf space.
I suppose they are trying to sway people away from PS4/XB1 and take advantage of their supply shortages. So much for not directly competing with them. :L

Chiefpitchanono on 26 November 2013

This post is not about the actual numbers or predictions. I thought it was a great read and I still could easily see this type of scenerio play out. But thats it. Its about an idea not specific dates and numbers. Its way too early to look at it and try to call bs or not. Its a possibility but thats it. If ms and sony keep finding millions of people willing to lay down 400-500 for a console plus sixty dollar games plus monthly fees for online access then they will be fine. The issue is thats an expensive bubble that has to rely on millions of people buying in for it to work. If it bursts then nintendo is left standing with their less expensive model of gameing.



Metalheadgamer on 26 November 2013
Chiefpitchanono said:
This post is not about the actual numbers or predictions. I thought it was a great read and I still could easily see this type of scenerio play out. But thats it. Its about an idea not specific dates and numbers. Its way too early to look at it and try to call bs or not. Its a possibility but thats it. If ms and sony keep finding millions of people willing to lay down 400-500 for a console plus sixty dollar games plus monthly fees for online access then they will be fine. The issue is thats an expensive bubble that has to rely on millions of people buying in for it to work. If it bursts then nintendo is left standing with their less expensive model of gameing.

I totally agree with what you just said. Althought I do believe that in the long run Sony and Microsoft will drop out of the hardware business. After all, both of them have things to lose if they don't succeed immediately....

But, their launch sales so far have been good.