Absurd isn't it?? Wii hit its peak in year 2/3 well before Nintendo gave up on it, sales were dwindling. Somehow Lucas either expected it to sell 15m a year consistantly up to 2020 or he expect a rise (somehow). Like I said, no logic involved at all.

The part that I find hilarious is he thinks It will take Wii U 3 years to sell 60m but it will sell 180m after that. If it sell an average of 20m a year starting in 2016 it wouldnt reach that number until 2024. Or if it sell an average of 30m a year it wouldnt reach 240m until 2021 and there is no way in hell Nintendo doesnt release a successor by then. If it follows a typical Nintendo cycle of 5-6 years it would have to sell about 60-90m per year starting in 2016.

But in all seriousness he makes Nintendo fans look bad. As u probably know im very optimistic about Wii Us future and in guessing at least 50% of my posts are explaining to people how Wii U has a strong chance of recovery. But I like to use past trends and actual data to support my arguments whereas he kinda lives in his own world and likes to grossly exaggerate almost every point he tries to make.

Oh & about that "fleeing the site" nonsense.
The reason I didn't post as much here in recent years is because I was tied up with this silly website I used to work with called Popzart/Popzara.
I even arranged for VGChartz & Popzara to cross-pollinate & team up a few years ago.
There's Popzara content on this site—a good bit of it written by me.

Wish I never got involved with Popzara. Worthless site tied up all of my time & for nothing good in the end. I should have just posted here instead.
I apologize to VGChartz for bringing that ignorant Popzara webmaster here. But hindsight is 20/20.
But that's the reason I was not as active in the VGChartz forum.

I don't run from nobody & people have been impressed when I flat out admit being wrong on some of my predictions.
That's why they respect when I get my predictions right.
Many respect the thought process that goes behind my predictions.
And at the very least they enjoy the excitement I bring to the forums with my posts even if they disagree with my conclusions.

Seece: "...even worse you can't expect things that happened decades ago to have an impact on todays situation."

Here's a proverb for you to understand.
You can't know where you're going unless you know where you've been.

ALWAYS reference the past to chart course for the future.
Nintendo did it with the DS when they looked all the way back to 1982 & the dual-screen Donkey Kong Multi-Screen Game & Watch.
Seems to have worked out pretty good for them, I would say.

John Lucas

Well I'm glad as a Nintendo fan you can point that out makes my claims against Lucas all the more valid.

and I agree, I think WiiU can recover, I just don't think it'll sell more than PS4 and Xbox One.

No one cares about first party games?  ok

Please do not spout religious text at me, I find it highly offensive.

Sounds like a weak excuse personally, but if that's what you claim I won't argue, I look forward to you admitting you're wrong!

You like to cherry pick obviously. Handhelds have always been a success for Nintendo, consoles? Not so much. Until the Wii nothing has come close to any home console Sony have put out.

And now the WiiU is its weakest selling system, and PS4 looks stronger at launch than PS3, yet somehow Sony and PS4 will fold and WiiU will dominate.

You really need to look over all your predictions and 'sources' and think outside the box, because you've not come up with anything solid. You're basically expecting to wake up one day and WiiU will be dominating for no reason.

Each platform has first party games, only two have first + third (to any great degree) hence that's why gamers care, PS360 gamers didn't lose out.

Same here if I had to guess I would say 

Wii U 40-50m (20-25%)

One 60-70m (25-35%)

PS4 100-120m (40-55%)

Basically 6th gen but not to such an extreme

Yes, zorg1000. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Wii didn't make that 240 million mark because Nintendo withdrew focus on the Wii in favor for the Wii U.
They shoved Wii out of the way because they didn't like Wii being pigeonholed as "The Casual Console", because they didn't like this ridiculous 3rd party standoff, because they saw the future of the industry in a bleak place. So they made a Super Wii to stop all of this.
They also didn't want to be battling their own phenomenon to make room for the new device.
And if you sit here & tell me that the console that was surpassing EVERY SINGLE RECORD the PS2 had established in EVERY SINGLE RESPECT but somehow could not top its record of all-time best console sales, then you gotta be jokin' me.

Wii was on track to top the PS2. No ifs, and, or buts about it.
And the only reason PS2 has its 155 million now is because PS3 didn't get the job done & PS2 had to hold Sony Computer Entertainment together financially.
They bled money because of the PS3 & PSP. PS2 acted as a blood clot to stop the gushing.

The Revolution will only need 2 parts. Part 2 is the clean up work. Part 1 already cleared the battlefield.
You might not see a PlayStation 5 or XBox Two after Wii U gets done with this business in the 8th gen.

I'll ask you what will you say if Wii U DOES get those numbers?
A lot of people can't believe it until they see it.
You'll just have to see it.
John Lucas

I wont say anything because it wont happen. Im not going to pretend for a second that 240m is even a possibility. What are ur predictions for Wii U sales in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020?

U have it as 23m in 2014 and 25m in 2015. Do u honestly believe it will sell 20m a year for 10+ years?