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NiKKoM said:
thismeintiel said:
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so what are you going to do to stop this? send an angry email?  vote for a guy who will never be president? Vote for a party with no power? use EU email services?


Wouldn't make a difference. The NSA is monitoring any calls, texts, and internet traffic that comes into the US, even if it orignates elseware, or starts in the US and is destined for overseas. If it passes through the US the NSA can and will have companies (foriegn or not) decrypt it.  This is the only company I know of who has refused any request and shut down.



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Yet we're told constantly that we live in the freest country in the world and that we have our various governments to thank for that. I am proud to live for the state and only for the state. Oh great U.S.A!!



Our freedoms continue to get eroded away. I mean the government might as well just burn our constitution and enforce complete martial law.



NobleTeam360 said:
Our freedoms continue to get eroded away. I mean the government might as well just burn our constitution and enforce complete martial law.


You know as funnu as this sound, its where we are heading if we keep down this path. 



I wouldn't have an issue with this if they weren't refusing to tell us what they're gathering from the large-scale dragnet (rather than specific investigations that crop up from leads from the dragnet).

I don't necessarily mind that the government is spying on me, or what i rather mean is that maybe they're doing so in a way I won't mind, if i knew about it. This idea that the whole process needs to remain so secret or else the terrorists will win is the one that's disturbing. Surely we can wage war on terror transparently

(to use a simile, this is like if the people at the TSA in airports didn't publish a list of what was not allowable onto aircraft, and just took stuff out of our bags and refused to tell us why they were taking it).



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