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Uhm, so not only they had safe name claim, and one that would be supported by mod. Even linkz admit the help in the mafia thread.

Oh well, I feel partly guilty for the last move of town. But, I'd have to thanks spurge for taking the spot of the player that did most damage to town.



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Neither of you are considering the alternative. A mass claim would have essentially gotten every mafia lynched without safe claims or going last. Even with a safe claim Nacho's knowledge of the flavor would have gotten me lynched if not for his lie and disappearance.

Mafia didn't win due to the safeclaims, just they helped us not lose. Town lost due to playing poorly.



Them Spurges... they drive me crazy... all of them, they haunt me every game!



Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:
IMO the game was really rigged in mafia's favor and it's a miracle that the whole thing came down to the wire like it did. Well done town!

Rolewise yes Mafia was stacked. trashleg could've carried out kills without fear of the Tracker/JoAT with radish using Strongman to deal with anyone that absolutely had to go. Godfather getting scanned could potentially be deadly as "confirmed" townie.(Another point where Town didn't do squat to look into what someone posted, though this time it helped) And having a Roleblock is of course huge to mess with Town's roles. On the other hand, mafia could have lost after the second Day if Town played perfectly.

What ended up happening was I did everything for two Days, helped solidify radish's claim, and took the fall so that he'd have a good chance on the final Day. Town shouldn't get the credit you're giving as it was a modkill that even forced it to be as close as it was.

You make some good points, but from reading your post I'm not sure you really are appreciating the fact that PRINCESS AND JESTER IN THE SAME GAME



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I am 100% behind you on the safeclaim issue though, let me know any time you want me to voice support for not being able to end the game via name claims.



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When I told you guys that Lynching linkz was the best scenario you guys didn't believe.

Oh well, That's my weakness I am not really great with words. ^^



Linkzmax said:
Neither of you are considering the alternative. A mass claim would have essentially gotten every mafia lynched without safe claims or going last. Even with a safe claim Nacho's knowledge of the flavor would have gotten me lynched if not for his lie and disappearance.

Mafia didn't win due to the safeclaims, just they helped us not lose. Town lost due to playing poorly.

Pretty much. Us being able to make a modest comeback due to flavor was unfortunate because we were pretty much outplayed in this scenario. I didn't originally mean to lie; I claimed too quickly because I hadn't opted to commute any of the nights (wasn't around, who would kill me?), then figured I would be powerlynched if I said that I forgot my role. So, I said that I lied about my role originally to mitigate damage, which I think would have worked just fine if not for the disappearances. The first couple of days were not really shining town moments, though; moreno should have never been lynched as a vigilante, and I have no idea why Spurge got lynched although Stefl played the role beautifully (unfortunately, not beautifully enough). 



Radish probably should have been lynched to kingdom come and back when his friendly neighbor didn't go through ever, though.



Nachomamma8 said:
Radish probably should have been lynched to kingdom come and back when his friendly neighbor didn't go through ever, though.


Well it sounded like it did.  He claimed he sent it to Benao, who then on the day we mass roleclaimed Benao was insistent on him claiming last.  So I took that as it going through,  which is why I voted for Noctis, because that coupled with him being involved with Linkz a few times seemed weird to me.

Another thing I noticed, almost everyday we lynched someone,  the person being lynched was no where to be found for the last 12-24 hours of the day.  Not one defense from anyone.  



I still rage on spurge for getting lynched... hopefully he finally learns...