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Vetteman94 on 25 August 2013
radishhead said:
I feel like the whole Vette situation is creating a useful veil for players to hide behind. I want somebody to give me a player who they feel needs further analysis, and I'll read through their posts and see if we need to take anything further. This method has led me to Mafia a number of times in the past, so it's definitely worth doing - I've got a few ideas of my own if nobody has any ideas.


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radishhead on 25 August 2013
Vetteman94 said:
radishhead said:
I feel like the whole Vette situation is creating a useful veil for players to hide behind. I want somebody to give me a player who they feel needs further analysis, and I'll read through their posts and see if we need to take anything further. This method has led me to Mafia a number of times in the past, so it's definitely worth doing - I've got a few ideas of my own if nobody has any ideas.


morenoingrato or linkzmax

As Moreno was on my list already, I'll start with him



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Yoshiya on 25 August 2013
radishhead said:
Vetteman94 said:
radishhead said:
I feel like the whole Vette situation is creating a useful veil for players to hide behind. I want somebody to give me a player who they feel needs further analysis, and I'll read through their posts and see if we need to take anything further. This method has led me to Mafia a number of times in the past, so it's definitely worth doing - I've got a few ideas of my own if nobody has any ideas.


morenoingrato or linkzmax

As Moreno was on my list already, I'll start with him

I agree with looking at Moreno, like I said previously, something seems slightly off about him.

Personally I think Linkz is fine and doesn't need extra reading. He seems to be working for the betterment of town (not revealing Noctis' role for example) and has thus far not given me any direct concern to worry about him.



trashleg on 25 August 2013
radishhead said:
I feel like the whole Vette situation is creating a useful veil for players to hide behind. I want somebody to give me a player who they feel needs further analysis, and I'll read through their posts and see if we need to take anything further. This method has led me to Mafia a number of times in the past, so it's definitely worth doing - I've got a few ideas of my own if nobody has any ideas.


Yoshiya, please.

Any thoughts would be welcome. Reading this entire thread AGAIN is too much work for me alone.



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radishhead on 25 August 2013

I'm working on the Moreno one, but it won't be posted until tomorrow - try not to rush the day to an end just yet



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benao87 on 25 August 2013
radishhead said:
I'm working on the Moreno one, but it won't be posted until tomorrow - try not to rush the day to an end just yet

Sweet. Not only moreno is one of my suspects, but any further approach is welcomed.

 

Vette name claim would fit his role, according to the little information that I have about the flavour.

I do not really suspect Linkz, I was wrong when I said that vette had not mentioned a scenario with no cop. Giving him some credit, it wasn't really explicit. However I must admit that I wouldn't be too comfortable lynching vette toDay. Not truly claiming he is 100% town, but I'm sincerely more worried about moreno, and even from trashleg, or radish.

@trashleg what's your suspicion about yoshiya?



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benao87 on 25 August 2013
Linkzmax said:
benao87 said:

Vette has never really doubted the existance of a cop, it was brought up by linkz, and reinforced by yoshiya and noctis. Vette might be just hoping for a roleclaim, and it is backfiring him. Interest in roles is normal, but Vette might be pushing it too hard.

Oh yeah?

My bad. Doubting the presence of a cop with a miller role is indeed quite suspicious, however giving him some credit it wasn't a very explicit thing. 

Linkzmax said:
benao87 said:
Linkzmax said:
Vetteman94 said:

Linkzmax 
Was visited by Noctis, and Linkzmax visited Nachomamma8 on night 1. With everyone having power roles it seems, this is probably quite common.  But was that scenario completely confirmed? Claims Noctis_Nox is town, how he knows this hasnt been explained.  Because Nachomamma8 isnt dead, we could assume that Linkz is town.  Was the purpose of your visit ever explained? No word on what he did night 2 

I visited everyone for the same reason, I thought they could be scum. Unfortunately, outside of a possible flavor hint it's unlikely I'll be able to confirm anyone unless it's later in the round.

What do you mean by "visited everyone"?

It does not mean I have targeted every player. It does mean that each target I visited, I chose because I didn't trust them.

Ok I got it. Then what do you reckon about nacho?

 



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benao87 on 25 August 2013
morenoingrato said:
benao87 said:

@moreno Do you have other suspects?

I don't like the rolefishers. Nacho and Vette, but Nacho is my prime suspect.

I have nothing on Trashleg, Radish or Noctis.

Yoshiya, you and Astro seem clear to me.


Why nacho? Well more than Vette.



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Linkzmax on 25 August 2013
Vetteman94 said:
Well being that this is the first time I am a miller, I dont know all the ins and outs of the role. Plus even in the wiki it doesnt state that a cop is always present for a miller role.

And neither does your story which is why I went after you and then you got defensive about it and attacked me. Its easy to get a Miller lynched because there is already doubt on his claim from the beginning.

And yes I am Town. I am Zuko, Town Miller. And I am done arguing this. My vote is for who I think is Mafia because of actually looking into what everyone said and claimed, not just one person. And if the current day takes another direction I will post again, but if not I am done until day is over. Others are just sitting back and watching this day go byhoping to go unnoticed, most of them the ones I have pegged for scum. But I suggest something uncommon but not improbable and I get jumped on for it. Its cool though I can't say I didn't expect this to eventually happen.

And If I get lynched today, good luck to the real town and your MYLO/LYLO situation tomorrow.

Unless you're looking at a different wiki, the very first line implies a Miller means there's a Cop. "A Miller (sometimes called an Outsider) is a role or role modifier such that the player passively returns an unfavorable result (i.e. Guilty) if investigated by aCop."

Even later on it mentions the possibility of there not being a Cop: "Less commonly, a Miller may be put into a game without a Cop, as a red herring."

Take note of the "Less commonly," meaning that isn't the norm.

I wasn't defensive about your lack of reading comprehension unless you think anyone answering any question asked of them is being defensive. You created some suspicion about the number of investigative roles despite my never claiming to be one.



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Linkzmax on 25 August 2013
trashleg said:
radishhead said:
I feel like the whole Vette situation is creating a useful veil for players to hide behind. I want somebody to give me a player who they feel needs further analysis, and I'll read through their posts and see if we need to take anything further. This method has led me to Mafia a number of times in the past, so it's definitely worth doing - I've got a few ideas of my own if nobody has any ideas.

Yoshiya, please.

Any thoughts would be welcome. Reading this entire thread AGAIN is too much work for me alone.

There's no reason to look into Yoshiya unless you're doubting Astro's claim. Faking an innocent scan is easy, but his Night one Tracker+Watcher claim isn't.



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