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radishhead said:
benao87 said:

Care to elaborate?

As I said, everyone has been doing pretty well at staying low this round, so it's just a feeling. But I don't want to instantly believe any "town" scan this game, because if it's as power-heavy as I think it could be, the Mafia are definitely going to have a few tricks to mess around with us. That's not to say I don't believe that Linkz is an investigative role necessarily - although that could be the case too.

Fair enough.

 

The whole miller/cop thing is interesting, but I'm not liking it. 

Vette has never really doubted the existance of a cop, it was brought up by linkz, and reinforced by yoshiya and noctis. Vette might be just hoping for a roleclaim, and it is backfiring him. Interest in roles is normal, but Vette might be pushing it too hard.

FoS linkz

FoS Vette

 

Linkzmax said:
Vetteman94 said:

Linkzmax 
Was visited by Noctis, and Linkzmax visited Nachomamma8 on night 1. With everyone having power roles it seems, this is probably quite common.  But was that scenario completely confirmed? Claims Noctis_Nox is town, how he knows this hasnt been explained.  Because Nachomamma8 isnt dead, we could assume that Linkz is town.  Was the purpose of your visit ever explained? No word on what he did night 2 

I visited everyone for the same reason, I thought they could be scum. Unfortunately, outside of a possible flavor hint it's unlikely I'll be able to confirm anyone unless it's later in the round.

What do you mean by "visited everyone"?

 

@moreno Do you have other suspects?



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benao87 said:

@moreno Do you have other suspects?

I don't like the rolefishers. Nacho and Vette, but Nacho is my prime suspect.

I have nothing on Trashleg, Radish or Noctis.

Yoshiya, you and Astro seem clear to me.



This miller/cop situation is mad - we've definitely got a cop, they're just not talking.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Vetteman94 said:

Even in a power heavy game it would seem odd that we would have that many investigative roles.  As for me questioning what roles we possibly have for investigation roles,  I am just trying to figure out who or what to believe from everyone.  We had a few people claiming others are town,  and I wanted to know why.  

And again I never said a cop couldnt be in the game,  I said that given what we know about certain characters none of them fit that situation so it didnt seem like we had one


What makes you think there is a lot of investigatve roles? Because I was confirmed by linkz? With all the information Linkz had I am pretty sure  he already knew what  my power is. It's already a mutual understanding. I'll stop here because I think I already give too much info.

The only question is if he is town.  I am still 50/50 about him.

@bold

Why are so curious about it? Isn't better if the information and roles are still hidden. We still don't know how powerful the mafias are. Revealing the roles is like asking the mafia to have an open target to the town.

If there is a mafia blocker and I am pretty sure there is one because of power heavy this game is.  If there is a blocker then We just gave an information that mafia doesn't need to know. You haven't thought ofthose do you?

2nd paragraph

You are a miller. What is the use of having a miller in the game if there isn't a cop?

 

VOTE: Vette

Keep parroting what other have said and I will tell you what I have told them,  I neer said there wasnt a cop.  go back and look at everyone of my posts.  Never said it.  You are voting for me for a sentence I never said and its just what someone assumed what I was thinking.  Which I wasnt.  



trashleg said:
I can't imagine a game without a cop? Has that ever happened before?


Yes, many times



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benao87 said:
radishhead said:
benao87 said:

Care to elaborate?

As I said, everyone has been doing pretty well at staying low this round, so it's just a feeling. But I don't want to instantly believe any "town" scan this game, because if it's as power-heavy as I think it could be, the Mafia are definitely going to have a few tricks to mess around with us. That's not to say I don't believe that Linkz is an investigative role necessarily - although that could be the case too.

Fair enough.

 

The whole miller/cop thing is interesting, but I'm not liking it. 

Vette has never really doubted the existance of a cop, it was brought up by linkz, and reinforced by yoshiya and noctis. Vette might be just hoping for a roleclaim, and it is backfiring him. Interest in roles is normal, but Vette might be pushing it too hard.

FoS linkz

FoS Vette

I agree I may have been a little aggressive in fishing for a roleclaim.  But with 3 people claiming others were town,  I found it tough to just take their word for it without a role to back up their claims.   But I am done with it now since no one else seems interested in finding out why people know what they know and why they know it.  

Lets face it,  a mislynch right now puts us at MYLO/LYLO situation the next day, depending on how many deaths there is tonight.  Only way out of it is no deaths happen tonight at all.  1 death is MYLO, 2 deaths is LYLO.    And right now we are headed for that situation.  



NoCtiS_NoX said:
Vetteman94 said:

Even in a power heavy game it would seem odd that we would have that many investigative roles.  As for me questioning what roles we possibly have for investigation roles,  I am just trying to figure out who or what to believe from everyone.  We had a few people claiming others are town,  and I wanted to know why.  

And again I never said a cop couldnt be in the game,  I said that given what we know about certain characters none of them fit that situation so it didnt seem like we had one


What makes you think there is a lot of investigatve roles? Because I was confirmed by linkz? With all the information Linkz had I am pretty sure  he already knew what  my power is. It's already a mutual understanding. I'll stop here because I think I already give too much info.

The only question is if he is town.  I am still 50/50 about him.

@bold

Why are so curious about it? Isn't better if the information and roles are still hidden. We still don't know how powerful the mafias are. Revealing the roles is like asking the mafia to have an open target to the town.

If there is a mafia blocker and I am pretty sure there is one because of power heavy this game is.  If there is a blocker then We just gave an information that mafia doesn't need to know. You haven't thought ofthose do you?

2nd paragraph

You are a miller. What is the use of having a miller in the game if there isn't a cop?

 

VOTE: Vette

To address your other issues. 

Because we had people coming out claiming others are innocent.  With one investigative role dead and others making these claims it seemed there was alot of people who had these abilities.  Didnt make sense that we would have that many in such a small game.

No, that information at this point in the game isnt better if it remains hidden.  Because with a mislynch today chances are we will be at MYLO tomorrow if there is a Mafia Kill tonight,  you can't bank on Doctor making the right choice again.   Or the 3rd Party not killing successfully either.  

Yes I have thought about all those situations.  And with all the partial information that is already out,  do you really think the mafia is going to give one of them the chance to explain themselves on another day?  Its day 3 and there are no leads because we have bits of info from random people.  No one is confirmed as anything,  So essentially we have 10 suspects still.  Considering the situation we are in it would be nice to have a few we could count on to actually know is town and make a better decision for todays lynch.    

But again,  people want to go against the Miller because he questioned a few people, who then put words in his mouth to make him seem guilty.   

Let me know when you actually have something worth lynching over,  cause I am done discussing and defending something I never said .



Vetteman94 said:

Lets face it,  a mislynch right now puts us at MYLO/LYLO situation the next day, depending on how many deaths there is tonight.  Only way out of it is no deaths happen tonight at all.  1 death is MYLO, 2 deaths is LYLO.    And right now we are headed for that situation.  

Why the insistence on a certain number of mafia? Know something town doesn't. Afterall, from a town perspective arriving at a MYLO/LYLO conclusion this early on seems a bit extreme. Think about who has died thus far. We've had one lynch and two night kills, both from the same night. There was no Night 2 kills. We're effectively in a Day 2 position at the moment considering how many have died (although it does seems likely Stefl was supposed to die at the end of Day 2 since he was listed as being killed by poison so let's say we're at Day 2 and a half). Do you really think that Mario would have balanced the game for us to be looking at a potential MYLO situation after just two Nights? Seems a bit unfair if he has don't you think?



Yoshiya said:
Vetteman94 said:

Lets face it,  a mislynch right now puts us at MYLO/LYLO situation the next day, depending on how many deaths there is tonight.  Only way out of it is no deaths happen tonight at all.  1 death is MYLO, 2 deaths is LYLO.    And right now we are headed for that situation.  

Why the insistence on a certain number of mafia? Know something town doesn't. Afterall, from a town perspective arriving at a MYLO/LYLO conclusion this early on seems a bit extreme. Think about who has died thus far. We've had one lynch and two night kills, both from the same night. There was no Night 2 kills. We're effectively in a Day 2 position at the moment considering how many have died (although it does seems likely Stefl was supposed to die at the end of Day 2 since he was listed as being killed by poison so let's say we're at Day 2 and a half). Do you really think that Mario would have balanced the game for us to be looking at a potential MYLO situation after just two Nights? Seems a bit unfair if he has don't you think?

Well it will be Day 4 when we would hit that situation, the game would end in Night 4, which is not that abnormal.  Didnt last game end at day 4 itself, pretty sure it did, small games dont last long. So regardless of what it "feels like"with no mafia being lynched by now its not that early.  Its multiple missed opportunities.  Plus we lynched day 1,  which is not the norm so it actually feels like day 3 still.   

So no that situation is not that unfair.



I think it's important to have an agreement on how many Mafia there could be, so we know what sort of situation we're dealing with here



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