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Ok so time limit has been hammered, and we still need to hear from some people.

Right now both stefl and spurge are on L-4.

Don't know spurge, you're going beyond your own randomness. I'd even vote for you, but I'm still thinking that a no lynch would be a better option for day one, as there are very people actually playing. Should you turn town, we can't really get anything against the people that have voted against you because you've turn the situation against you.



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Vetteman94 said:
Given that there are about 21 hours left in the first day, and 2 people leading the pack to be lynched, I think that a couple role claims could be in order.

Role fishing already? And for two roles at that? There is no need to roleclaim with 21 hours left when so many people haven't voted yet.

That said:

Vote: Spurge

His logic is just insane this game and impossible to follow. There is the issue I raised earlier over him seemingly going after an unactive player whose inactivity he had previously been defending compared to the other inactive and overall I just don't get a good feeling about Spurge this round.



Yoshiya said:
Vetteman94 said:
Given that there are about 21 hours left in the first day, and 2 people leading the pack to be lynched, I think that a couple role claims could be in order.

Role fishing already? And for two roles at that? There is no need to roleclaim with 21 hours left when so many people haven't voted yet.

That said:

Vote: Spurge

His logic is just insane this game and impossible to follow. There is the issue I raised earlier over him seemingly going after an unactive player whose inactivity he had previously been defending compared to the other inactive and overall I just don't get a good feeling about Spurge this round.

Well I would at least like to know what is about to be lynched.  And given the frequency that people post in this game at the moment,  earlier couldnt really hurt as it would give people time to get on and judge the claim for themselves.  And its possible that one of them may try and lie and get caught up in it.  



Vote: Time Limit

Next post: my thoughts so far.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.

Okay so, firstly I'm sorry I haven't been here. Going through some shit right now but I'm here.

Stefl claimed as Earth King. I'm assuming that means he's aligning himself as town?
Stefl also claimed to know that Linkz is town. How does he know this?

Yoshiya claimed Toph Beifing, which to be honest I have no opinion on. I'm not familiar with that character or the show. :/

Spurgeryan wants to jump at anyone who knows the TV show, and seems to generally be infammatory.

Vetteman, you seem defensive after roleclaiming town miller. General question - if there's a town miller, is there usually a mafia miller too?

If there's a mafia miller, could that be why stefl "knows" linkz is "town", trying to set up an investigation into him so it comes back positive? I dunno, that thinking might be a little far-fetched. Just trying to get my thoughts down.

Bena - Why do you trust Vetteman?

That's all for now, I think.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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trashleg said:
Okay so, firstly I'm sorry I haven't been here. Going through some shit right now but I'm here.

Stefl claimed as Earth King. I'm assuming that means he's aligning himself as town?
Stefl also claimed to know that Linkz is town. How does he know this?

Yoshiya claimed Toph Beifing, which to be honest I have no opinion on. I'm not familiar with that character or the show. :/

Spurgeryan wants to jump at anyone who knows the TV show, and seems to generally be infammatory.

Vetteman, you seem defensive after roleclaiming town miller. General question - if there's a town miller, is there usually a mafia miller too?

If there's a mafia miller, could that be why stefl "knows" linkz is "town", trying to set up an investigation into him so it comes back positive? I dunno, that thinking might be a little far-fetched. Just trying to get my thoughts down.

Bena - Why do you trust Vetteman?

That's all for now, I think.

The equivalent of a mafia miller is a Godfather who scans town despite being mafia. They are far more common than Millers and in the rounds I played before taking a break, there was one pretty much every game due to the fact that they balance the very common cop role.



trashleg said:
Okay so, firstly I'm sorry I haven't been here. Going through some shit right now but I'm here.

Stefl claimed as Earth King. I'm assuming that means he's aligning himself as town?
Stefl also claimed to know that Linkz is town. How does he know this?

Yoshiya claimed Toph Beifing, which to be honest I have no opinion on. I'm not familiar with that character or the show. :/

Spurgeryan wants to jump at anyone who knows the TV show, and seems to generally be infammatory.

Vetteman, you seem defensive after roleclaiming town miller. General question - if there's a town miller, is there usually a mafia miller too?

If there's a mafia miller, could that be why stefl "knows" linkz is "town", trying to set up an investigation into him so it comes back positive? I dunno, that thinking might be a little far-fetched. Just trying to get my thoughts down.

Bena - Why do you trust Vetteman?

That's all for now, I think.

Just defending my role claim.  I would expect anyone else in my situation to do the same.   Especially when it is trying to be twisted into something it isnt.  



spurgeonryan said:

next time stop with the same old, ryan makes no sense routine, lets lynch him.

Start making actual sense and then sure...

You've contradicted yourself enough times this game already and you're trying to turn it back on those voting you? And how I am buddying up to Stefl? I don't see how at any point I've made any attempts to get him on my side.



trashleg said:

Bena - Why do you trust Vetteman?


Because it would be more "costly" not to. I mean, I don't trust him as in I know he is telling the truth, but in order to set some pieces and start the game. One can't really deny a miller claim day 1, unless he is not the miller, and the real miller expose him, which has not happened. Then, setting all the things to actually be able to know if he is indeed town, is costly to us town, on the first day.

Now, his claim allow us to save a cop scan, and he could trigger a watcher against him. Taking all of the above into consideration, I consider it's best to go with his claim for the moment.

 

@spurge wtf? You are now in L-3, you are not lynched yet. However you are the only one to blame. You started with incoherences, there most of the pople pointed out that is normal for you, but then you started pointing fingers in a crazy way. You went beyond random, and more into a crazy and nervious player. Then, why would you be nervous?



Yoshiya said:

Linkzmax said:

Are you implying that spurge is buddying up to me or that we are scummates?

Could be either although the latter is more likely considering how loose the defence was. That said, I don't actually think you are scum atm, it was more just something I noticed and I wanted to make sure I got it out there rather than letting the thought vanish in case something similar came up later on so I would thus have other evidence back down the line. The second half of the post (about voting Nacho who was a lurker) is by far the more important part of that in my opinion.

Fair enough, I just wanted to state your stance clearly. I was getting the impression you were voicing heavy suspicion towards spurge, but the lack of a vote was an indication you were trying to give him an out from a lynch.(being your scummate) At the same time you were trying to set up a future mislynch if spurge went on to be lynched.

Your vote breaking the tie by putting spurge in the lead makes the above quite unlikely though.