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Subie_Greg said:
I've enjoyed reading this thread.

It's been fun to see all the Master Chiefs at the beginning trying to lol at 4.5 - 5.5 GB... even though the 4.5 GB still beats Microsofts 5 GB. Then seeing the lols turn right back to the go to move of "Microsoft and it's fans are so mistreated" has made me smile

Cheer up though Chief, you still have The Cloud : )

This is the important part for you, isn't it?



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Now that it's all but confirmed, I'll give my 2 cents.

This is fucking smart, only because they doubled the ram so late in launch game dev cycles. Before the upgrade theyhad 3.5 GB and seemed to be doing fine. Now with 5.5 GB they can go balls to the wall compared to their origional plans. Having 1.5 GB more would be pointless apart from lazy devs who don't want to optimize and/or get rid of loading.

Leaving all this extra ram allows Sony to answer this tough question of game vs os after it is on the market. If in a year they decide to cut the OS by a GB, games in dev will be only jumping from 5.5 to 6.5 which again doesn't scrap their work.

It's also nice how game ram shrinks like on Vita. Maybe they will at first add another gig to this. I'd expect the xbone to do something similar, but do we know how much the game ram shrinks by? If it shrinks by 3 GB for example, two full games could be on system at the same time.



BasilZero said:
osed125 said:
AgentZorn said:
BasilZero said:


5 GB for that though? I can understand 5 GB for the next GTA but this? I wanna know what makes his game need 5 GB if it really runs on 5 GB.


Maybe the game is coded in Java.

 


I dont get it ;__;


Java is a programming language . The problem most have with Java is that Java-apps usually run in a "vm", so to say. You write Java-code and this will turn into a Java-app. This app can be executed on any system where a Java-vm is available so it's platform independant code you write. The downside is that the app uses more ressources than if it had been coded in another language.



walsufnir said:
Subie_Greg said:
I've enjoyed reading this thread.

It's been fun to see all the Master Chiefs at the beginning trying to lol at 4.5 - 5.5 GB... even though the 4.5 GB still beats Microsofts 5 GB. Then seeing the lols turn right back to the go to move of "Microsoft and it's fans are so mistreated" has made me smile

Cheer up though Chief, you still have The Cloud : )

This is the important part for you, isn't it?


Honestly... no. I don't care either way. But it's odd to me that some have tried to spin this as something bad. 



Subie_Greg said:
walsufnir said:
Subie_Greg said:
I've enjoyed reading this thread.

It's been fun to see all the Master Chiefs at the beginning trying to lol at 4.5 - 5.5 GB... even though the 4.5 GB still beats Microsofts 5 GB. Then seeing the lols turn right back to the go to move of "Microsoft and it's fans are so mistreated" has made me smile

Cheer up though Chief, you still have The Cloud : )

This is the important part for you, isn't it?


Honestly... no. I don't care either way. But it's odd to me that some have tried to spin this as something bad.


So reducing the amount for devs from 7g to 4.5g - 5.5g is actually a good thing? I said from the beginning that it's not important and for both systems the ram-usage is going to be optimized but really this is at least not good. And why did you say that it still beats Xbone if you don't care anyway?



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Oh the hypocrisy! This is why I love the console wars.



Ex Graphics Whore.

Reading this thread (http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160482) makes me laugh about some comments now, even more than the first time ;)



@ walsufnir

It would be bad if they did reduce the amount devs can use from 7GB to 5.5GB. However, that's not what happened. The devs are able to use the exact same amount of RAM they have been able to ever since they got the dev kits. Actually, Sony upped it from 3GB to 5.5GB in Feb/Mar. So, quit trying to put a negative spin on this. Then again, I do understand that this is one of the very few "negative" stories for the PS4. Gotta use whatever you can for the "warz."



Next stop: How many computing power will both systems need to run the os?
I said it right from the beginning: Specs tell you close to nothing on how the whole system will perform.



walsufnir said:


So reducing the amount for devs from 7g to 4.5g - 5.5g is actually a good thing? I said from the beginning that it's not important and for both systems the ram-usage is going to be optimized but really this is at least not good. And why did you say that it still beats Xbone if you don't care anyway?


They never said 7. It's good to see that the OS won't freeze everytime you check a message while in game lol

I don't care. Just think it's funny that the Xbox people have come here and thrown some internet punches when Xbox One is still behind. Guess they are happy that the Xbox One isn't as far behind as they thought?