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thismeintiel on 26 July 2013

I have to say the last few hours have been very entertaining.

It seems all the Xbox fanboys were able to come out of hiding because there was the smallest shred of negative (not really) news for the PS4. Of course, they completely ignore the fact that even if the rumor is correct, PS4 devs still have 0.5GB more RAM to work with, or the same amount that's in the 360/PS3. And much faster RAM, at that. Also, quite funny how they still wish to ignore the MOST important factor, spec-wise, that the PS4 has a more powerful GPU.

Really, Xbox fans should be the last ones talking about specs, since the PS4 beats the One in every category in that department. If you're going to brag about anything about the One, it should be its features and/or exclusives. But, DEFINITELY not specs.



 

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nnodley on 26 July 2013
Adinnieken said:

Generally speaking, companies deny or refute negative publicity or have someone else do it (i.e. a developer).

If you don't cut-off negative publicity, it tends to get away from you and out of hand.  Usually you get in front of it, and control it. 

Sony hasn't come out and flatly denied it.  Nor have any surrogates.  In fact, they've let this run the news cycle without comment and it'll have all weekend to fester.  Generally, and I'm being serious not hyperbolic, that's not a good thing to do.

Microsoft let the Digital Library/DRM thing get out from under them, and when they didn't get out in front of the issue and try to control it, it completely got away from them where no matter what they tried to say or do, it fell on deaf ears. 

This isn't as serious as the DRM issue was for Microsoft, but I don't think Sony should discount it completely.  I'm sure they're talking to devs, so that may be the only sphere they really care about conveying the information to right now.  I just think eventually they have to say something to the general public.

Yeah I agree.  They might be finding the best way to refute or confirm this rumor/news.  Their PR has been on point since the reveal of ps4 and I don't want them to start messing up now. With that in mind, what I find the weirdest about all this also is that they said that they delayed the article because Sony was gonna give a comment on it or that's what it seemed like.  But that doesn't seem to be the case.  I may have misunderstood that though.



platformmaster918 on 26 July 2013
thismeintiel said:

I have to say the last few hours have been very entertaining.

It seems all the Xbox fanboys were able to come out of hiding because there was the smallest shred of negative (not really) news for the PS4. Of course, they completely ignore the fact that even if the rumor is correct, PS4 devs still have 0.5GB more RAM to work with, or the same amount that's in the 360/PS3. And much faster RAM, at that. Also, quite funny how they still wish to ignore the MOST important factor, spec-wise, that the PS4 has a more powerful GPU.

Really, Xbox fans should be the last ones talking about specs, since the PS4 beats the One in every category in that department. If you're going to brag about anything about the One, it should be its features and/or exclusives. But, DEFINITELY not specs.

This is what I don't get.  Crysis 3 doesn't even need 5gb of DDR3 RAM if I'm not mistaken.  GDDR5 is more optimized for games plus it's optimized on a console far more (look at what devs did with 256mb this gen).  Why people don't focus on PS4's 50% more powerful GPU is simple, they know X1 can't compete there.  They latch onto RAM now because one bad rumor that I'm hearing has been debunked mentioned the amount (not quality) has been brought to par with X1.  The GPU is the most important part of the trifecta (CPU, GPU, RAM) that's always talked about and PS4 has its biggest advantage there.  PS4 GPU is looking beast especially with "the Crew" devs already basically saying they couldn't use it all being a multiplat game.  Infamous looks mighty impressive whether it's using 4gb or 7gb of RAM.




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ethomaz on 26 July 2013

The GAF sumary...

1.5GB used by OS
1GB reserved for future OS functionality
1GB reserved for additional dev use
4.5GB reserved for set dev use



bananaking21 on 26 July 2013
ethomaz said:
The GAF sumary...

1.5GB used by OS
1GB reserved for future OS functionality
1GB reserved for additional dev use
4.5GB reserved for set dev use

what does the additional dev use mean?

also, did crysis 3 on PC use 4.5 GBs of ram? 



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tuscaniman99 on 26 July 2013

Jonathon Blow is a dick. That is all I have to say.



bananaking21 on 26 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
Jonathon Blow is a dick. That is all I have to say.


thats very lovley, but why?



tuscaniman99 on 26 July 2013

@bananaking21
He basically said the Xbox One was a joke because only 5gb of ram was available to developers and his game is using 5gb already blah blah blah. He showed his game at the Sony conference and I bet he is feeling pretty stupid about now. There is no way his game is using 5gb of ram unless he is the worst coder in history.



thismeintiel on 27 July 2013
platformmaster918 said:
thismeintiel said:

I have to say the last few hours have been very entertaining.

It seems all the Xbox fanboys were able to come out of hiding because there was the smallest shred of negative (not really) news for the PS4. Of course, they completely ignore the fact that even if the rumor is correct, PS4 devs still have 0.5GB more RAM to work with, or the same amount that's in the 360/PS3. And much faster RAM, at that. Also, quite funny how they still wish to ignore the MOST important factor, spec-wise, that the PS4 has a more powerful GPU.

Really, Xbox fans should be the last ones talking about specs, since the PS4 beats the One in every category in that department. If you're going to brag about anything about the One, it should be its features and/or exclusives. But, DEFINITELY not specs.

This is what I don't get.  Crysis 3 doesn't even need 5gb of DDR3 RAM if I'm not mistaken.  GDDR5 is more optimized for games plus it's optimized on a console far more (look at what devs did with 256mb this gen).  Why people don't focus on PS4's 50% more powerful GPU is simple, they know X1 can't compete there.  They latch onto RAM now because one bad rumor that I'm hearing has been debunked mentioned the amount (not quality) has been brought to par with X1.  The GPU is the most important part of the trifecta (CPU, GPU, RAM) that's always talked about and PS4 has its biggest advantage there.  PS4 GPU is looking beast especially with "the Crew" devs already basically saying they couldn't use it all being a multiplat game.  Infamous looks mighty impressive whether it's using 4gb or 7gb of RAM.

Another thing to consider is that all the games that were shown at the Feb reveal (and most likely at E3, as well), like the KZ:SF dev pointed out, were created with a 4GB console in mind, so could only use ~3GB.  And those games still looked great.  I'm sure some, especially 1st parties, have since upped their games to take advantage of the 2.5GB extra they have now.  I just can't wait to see what games will look like when they all take advantage of the RAM, completely.  Especially considering the Dark Sorcerer demo only used 4GB.



 

VXIII on 27 July 2013

Drama ... Drama indeed.