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KHlover on 25 July 2013
Wright said:
Ajescent said:

Not to be too picky but uhh they said the news is awesome, not the "indie support"...


I quoted what N4G said.

That's the mistake. Please copy off NeoGAF in the future, unlike N4G they have standards over there (Seriously, fuck N4G)



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Wright on 25 July 2013
KHlover said:
Wright said:
Ajescent said:

Not to be too picky but uhh they said the news is awesome, not the "indie support"...


I quoted what N4G said.

That's the mistake. Please copy off NeoGAF in the future, unlike N4G they have standards over there (Seriously, fuck N4G)

I don't like NeoGaf xD



pokoko on 25 July 2013

He's right, it's really good news for everyone involved. He's also right that it's only half the equation. The changes are also going to need to be in the way Microsoft treats smaller developers. The reason Sony has made so much recent headway is that they've poured a lot of effort into reaching out to developers and making them feel important and welcome. It's a change in attitude as much as procedure.

Still, if Microsoft has gone this far, then they know what the problems are. We'll likely see more changes in the way their staff interacts with developers who aren't represented by lawyers and businessmen.



KHlover on 25 July 2013
Wright said:
KHlover said:
Wright said:
Ajescent said:

Not to be too picky but uhh they said the news is awesome, not the "indie support"...


I quoted what N4G said.

That's the mistake. Please copy off NeoGAF in the future, unlike N4G they have standards over there (Seriously, fuck N4G)

I don't like NeoGaf xD

Me too, the site is infested by Nintendo trolls. Overall news quality still is better than on N4G, though.



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sales2099 on 25 July 2013
Ajescent said:
Better late. Nice to see that they are bending over backwards to fix things, still surprised at how it got so bad in the first place.

Technically its early, since November is more then 3 months away



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sales2099 on 25 July 2013
Ajescent said:

Not to be too picky but uhh they said the news is awesome, not the "indie support"...

MS has always been a leader in "support". Only its polocies needed tweaking.



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MoHasanie on 25 July 2013

Why are indies so important all of a sudden? The majority of gamers don't even play them and very few end up being successful.



    

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sales2099 on 25 July 2013
MoHasanie said:
Why are indies so important all of a sudden? The majority of gamers don't even play them and very few end up being successful.

I know what this sounds like coming from me....but gamers didn't much care for the indie scene until recently. Sure Xbox gamers are the most supportive of the indie games scene (ironically) but it never took the spotlight until Journey got a ton of awards and MS's stance on indies before the 180.

I have a feeling indie support isn't that relevant to the average gamer...but they latched onto it because it was an excuse to hate on MS.



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drkohler on 25 July 2013
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
Better late. Nice to see that they are bending over backwards to fix things, still surprised at how it got so bad in the first place.

Technically its early, since November is more then 3 months away

And we already know that November will come and go WITHOUT indies being able to use normal XBox Ones as dev units. This has already been stated by MS And it should not be a surprise since it requires to modify at least the Hypervisor software. Given that MS is late in the development cycle, they simply do not have the time to change all this until some time into 2014.
Seriously, this is about the fifth or sixth thread about "awesome indie support". Is that really necessary?



ethomaz on 25 July 2013

drkohler said:

And we already know that November will come and go WITHOUT indies being able to use normal XBox Ones as dev units. This has already been stated by MS And it should not be a surprise since it requires to modify at least the Hypervisor software. Given that MS is late in the development cycle, they simply do not have the time to change all this until some time into 2014. 
Seriously, this is about the fifth or sixth thread about "awesome indie support". Is that really necessary?

The self-publishing is not going at launch too... everything will be released in the first 12 moths life of the console.