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Seece on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Seece said:
shikamaru317 said:
Smart move on both the UK price cut and Titanfall bundle. A few comments though:

Shouldn't they drop the price of the Standard console outside of the UK at least temporarily, so that it's sales won't tank while people await the Titanfall bundle? Their February sales will be atrocious if people quit buying the standard edition to wait for the Titanfall bundle.

Also, I think they need to manufacture alot of these Titanfall bundles if they want a significant sales boost. They could probably sell through 500k of these bundles in the first month if Titanfall is going to be as big as I'm expecting. They need to make at least a million of these Titanfall bundles. Yes, a million of these would cost them about $67 million since they're giving away Titanfall and a month of Xbox Live free, but it'll be worth it if they can take 2nd place from the Wii U soon and close the gap on the PS4 significantly. If they plan to release in more countries soon, they may even need to make more than a million, offering these at launch in new countries would provide a pretty significant sales start in those countries. If they make enough of these Titanfall bundles and release in more countries soon, I could see the Xbox One hitting at least 5.5 million by June.

Far too optimistic, it's gonna be around 4m end of March, it isn't going to push 500k a month up to end of June. MIGHT be able to hit 5m.

4m end of March seems a bit on the low side to me given how big Titanfall should be. They're already at 3.5m and there are 7 weeks of sales left before the end of March, 500k for 7 weeks seems too low. Also, don't forget that I mentioned releases in more countries before the end of June in my prediction, if ntkrnl's April country release list was correct, Xbox One should see at least 400k from those countries combined by the end of June, more if this Titanfall bundle is available at launch. Also, I suspect that Microsoft may do a similar bundle for KSR to appeal to the casuals, that should move at least another 300k units by itself. 5.5M end of June isn't impossible if Microsoft plays their cards right. 

VGC has it way overtracked. It was at 2.8 - 3m end of 2013, and sold 140k in January in US, likely 100k~ elsewhere. It's between 3 - 3.25m IMO.



 

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FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014

Why are people making thread like xbox one showing a middle finger to early adopters. ps3 had so many price cuts all those who purchased on launch were shown a middle finger by sony. Price cuts are something we know will be coming. We even know a redesigned xbox will be coming so when a redesigned xbox1 comes then they will make same articles. Sometimes forums are a shit place.



FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
FrontlineJaguar said:
Why are people making thread like xbox one showing a middle finger to early adopters. ps3 had so many price cuts all those who purchased on launch were shown a middle finger by sony. Price cuts are something we know will be coming. We even know a redesigned xbox will be coming so when a redesigned xbox1 comes then they will make same articles. Sometimes forums are a shit place.

Fanboys that don't even own an Xbox One I'm sure. The number of Xbox owners that consider this a middle finger is likely very low. Most want Microsoft's sales to go up, because higher sales mean higher marketshare, and higher marketshare means more games. I'm not angry at Microsoft, I knew there was a significant chance of a pricecut or bundle for Titanfall, and I bought it early anyway, I knew the risks. 

Yes this is the point at e3 we know titanfall was coming and we knew a bundle will most probably come because it is big ip for microsoft but users still bought all or many knew price cut would be coming in coming months xbox owners definetely don't feel bad about it then why do people who don't even own it should be worried they should be happy because it is cheap they might have a chance to own it.



FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:

Ryuu96 said:

Ahh that would make sense, was wondering why it was such a large size Lol, honestly can't remember what the digital one said....but if it was 22Gb then we will get around 18GB worth of DLC? xD

18 GB is awfully high for map packs unless they have more than the usual 3 map packs planned. Maybe they're planning an optional high res texture pack as well, we've seen shooters do that last gen. 


Guys gamespot is saying titanfall digital pre order was a msitake not available for xbox one only for pc.

Sad for guys who cancelled their pre order to go digital.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/titanfall-on-xbox-one-does-not-support-pre-loading-update/1100-6417889/



Seece on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Seece said:

VGC has it way overtracked. It was at 2.8 - 3m end of 2013, and sold 140k in January in US, likely 100k~ elsewhere. It's between 3 - 3.25m IMO.

It was just over 3m end of December and that was an oficial number from Microsoft. VGchartz actually went back and lowered their January numbers some to take into account January NPD. They currently have it sitting at 3.49m, including the first two weeks of February. It might be a little high but there's no way it's under 3.4m, not with the first two weeks of February included. VGchartz has got to be undertracking the Xbox One for February, no way it sold just 48k the week that the Titanfall beta started (with Nintendo only 8k behind). 

The 3m didn't add up in the end, I believe 2.85m, but nobody could explain where the other 150k were sold.

Definitely under 3.4m WW tho, it's at 2m in the US end of Jan, there is no way it's at 1.4m the rest of the world.



 

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FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014

Nintendo wiiu+zelda or mario is at the same price as ps4 in my country. I think it is a really bad move. In india nintendo is not in a strong position and nobody talks about it in my country and only a handful of them own which I know. 3ds is selling a little bit well. But how will wii u sell when it is at a price equal to ps4. This makes me concerned for xbox one because it is 100$ more in us and how much will it be more in india.
To put in perspective.
1$=rs62(Rs is Indian currency)
400$ ps4=25000rs estimated
now how much does it costs=40000 nearly double
ratio is 1.6

Xbox one
500$=31500
this makes xbox one available at 52000rs nearly looking at price it is very expensive from a Indian standpoint I can afford my friends can also but they are many who cannot. Microsoft is not as strong as sony in India but definetely in a better position than nintendo. Even a unlocked iphone 5s costs less than xbox one if the above price comes out to be true. All high end smarthphones are cheaper.

I can even get a decent pc with that money.
There are laptops having specs
8gb ram
750gb hard disk
Intel i5 2.6-2.8ghz
2gb nvidia graphic card
Play all games with decent graphics.

Even alienware x51 base model is at the same price.
Microsoft please keep the price low so xbox owners can play xbox one at a cost which does not hurts our pocket.
 Edit: Many features like voice command are not available in India(for xbox 360) so they might not be available for xbox one but they might be available because you know microsoft is advertising like voice is new controller for xbox so they might make it available.

Tv functionality which I think has very less chances of happening. Other apps like netflix,hulu,hbo,xbox music not available in India this maeks me think how will microsoft will be able to sell xbox one in india with all those lacking features&apps. Why would people buy an expensive console. People leaving in other countries have apps for movie streaming,music streaming but in India they are not available why would people buy microsoft will have a tough time selling xbox one in India. I hope microsoft has some surprises for us



Shinobi-san on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
FrontlineJaguar said:
Why are people making thread like xbox one showing a middle finger to early adopters. ps3 had so many price cuts all those who purchased on launch were shown a middle finger by sony. Price cuts are something we know will be coming. We even know a redesigned xbox will be coming so when a redesigned xbox1 comes then they will make same articles. Sometimes forums are a shit place.

Fanboys that don't even own an Xbox One I'm sure. The number of Xbox owners that consider this a middle finger is likely very low. Most want Microsoft's sales to go up, because higher sales mean higher marketshare, and higher marketshare means more games. I'm not angry at Microsoft, I knew there was a significant chance of a pricecut or bundle for Titanfall, and I bought it early anyway, I knew the risks. 

I would actually think the average consumer wont be impressed by the pricecut if they just bought the console or bought at launch.

Most people who buy consoles really dont give a shit about the company behind the console and just want the best deal possible. So i highly doubt you have people thinking about marketshare and stuff like that outside of forums.

And yeah people are probably using this to fuel their agenda but that was always gonna happen, that doesnt mean though that the average consumer isnt cheesed off by the price cut. Either way its not a big deal...i was pretty upset after i bought my ps3 and then a few months later it got a cut :/



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Shinobi-san on 24 February 2014

After just watching South Africa make an amazing comeback against Australia in cricket...i think its gonna be really interesting to see MS fight back against PS4.

People are acting as if this gen is already over and everything is said and done but things can change so fast. Who saw the price cut coming? Not many people. I guess we all knew something was coming around e3 or later in the year but not with Titanfall.

I think MS will have a really strong E3 as well...Sony really cant afford to relax. Aah this gen is gonna be really interesting



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FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
FrontlineJaguar said:
Nintendo wiiu+zelda or mario is at the same price as ps4 in my country. I think it is a really bad move. In india nintendo is not in a strong position and nobody talks about it in my country and only a handful of them own which I know. 3ds is selling a little bit well. But how will wii u sell when it is at a price equal to ps4. This makes me concerned for xbox one because it is 100$ more in us and how much will it be more in india.
To put in perspective.
1$=rs62(Rs is Indian currency)
400$ ps4=25000rs estimated
now how much does it costs=40000 nearly double
ratio is 1.6

Xbox one
500$=31500
this makes xbox one available at 52000rs nearly looking at price it is very expensive from a Indian standpoint I can afford my friends can also but they are many who cannot. Microsoft is not as strong as sony in India but definetely in a better position than nintendo. Even a unlocked iphone 5s costs less than xbox one if the above price comes out to be true. All high end smarthphones are cheaper.

I can even get a decent pc with that money.
There are laptops having specs
8gb ram
750gb hard disk
Intel i5 2.6-2.8ghz
2gb nvidia graphic card
Play all games with decent graphics.

Even alienware x51 base model is at the same price.
Microsoft please keep the price low so xbox owners can play xbox one at a cost which does not hurts our pocket.

Hopefully they're testing the water with the UK price drop, if it provides a significant boost in sales there I think they'll drop the price in other countries. So when Microsoft finally does release the Xbox One in India it should hopefully be equivalent to $450, maybe even $400 if the October India release and pre Holiday $400 price drop that ntkrnl leaked were accurate.


I hope what you are saying comes to be true and before that we are going to have elections and if the party wins that people are hoping to win, will bring some changes in country which will make ruppee better and I think ruppee will be in a better position by that time which might make xbox one cheaper.Analyst are hoping new party if wins will make situation like 1$=55-57rs but I think it has chances of being better somewhere near 50-55rs if that happens xbox one will be cheaper at launch and that  makes me happy.

 

@Jay just did what u said once agin with the steam issue steam works properly know thanks for help. Downloading dota 2 to play with my friends

 

I just came to know we can ship products from amazon.com to india and if I make a shipment from their xbox one is going to cost me 46000rs I think I might be geeting one after march exams



FrontlineJaguar on 24 February 2014
Shinobi-san said:
After just watching South Africa make an amazing comeback against Australia in cricket...i think its gonna be really interesting to see MS fight back against PS4.

People are acting as if this gen is already over and everything is said and done but things can change so fast. Who saw the price cut coming? Not many people. I guess we all knew something was coming around e3 or later in the year but not with Titanfall.

I think MS will have a really strong E3 as well...Sony really cant afford to relax. Aah this gen is gonna be really interesting

This gen is going to be one of the most intersting gen competition from both of them will be strong. Both will try their best to come out on top Microsoft will not leave any storn unturned to win this time. 

Never knew their are fans of cricket also on this website i ENJOY watching it too but never knew their was a match today.