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sales2099 on 16 July 2013
kupomogli said:
sales2099 said:

So really, thats an admission that PS can't stand up by itself against Xbox?

Because in a strict PS vs Xbox debate, neglecting these types of games seems silly. Bringing in a PC to fight PS battles.....thats what these types of replies sound like.

The 360 sales of Left 4 Dead and especially Minecraft shows that there is a big market for console only gamers. These titles clearly matter.

Playstation has better games without the need to rely on PC titles. 

I replied to you before that you're missing out on a lot of games by not playing games on PC and you stated that "you're basically saying your console doesn't have enough content to keep you interested."  It's less the PS3 or even the 360 if I was an owner doesn't have good games, but more than I'm missing out on a lot of great games by not owning a PC.

Because I'm a PC owner, I can play those 360 "exclusive games" like Torchlight, Limbo, Left 4 Dead, Bastion, Minecraft, Alan Wake, etc.  By not being a PC owner, I can't play new games like Torchlight 2,  Legend of Grimrock, Rome 2, etc, older games like, XCOM UFO Defense, Might and Magic, Heroes of Might and Magic, Syndicate, Baldur's Gate, etc.

I can go and say the same thing to you that you need a Wii and a Wii U to satisfy your gaming needs because your 360 doesn't have enough good games. By using your logic, purchasing a competitors console is far worse than playing games on the PC, because unlike a competitors console, I use my PC for more than just playing games.  Hell.  The least of what I do on my PC is playing games, and the only time i ever buy PC games is when I can get them dirt cheap.  I actually just got Torchlight 2 for $3.75.  Because there's so much great content on the PS3, I can wait for prices on PC to go on sale for ridiculously prices before purchasing.

Not just PC though.  I shouldn't collect for the Vita or the PSP right?  Since the PS3 should be enough.  So you're technically right.  I have Wii, DS, 3DS, PSP, Vita, and PS3 games this gen, as well as PC games.  I have many games spanning multiiple generations whether they're NES games, Genesis games, etc.  I should be content with my library of around 100 PS3 games.   

Just saying 360 has more 70-79, 80-89, and 90+ games on metacritic. Take that however you wish.

It isn't about whether or not you personally game on a PC. Its the simple concept that if you are ever comparing 2 consoles, and ONLY those 2, you limit the comparisons to what each can do that the other can't, disregarding all else and whatever gaming preferences you have.

The Wii/WiiU part is again referring to a personal gaming taste matter, when it actually has 0 bearing on a 360 vs PS3 comparison. What people don't see is that such a comparison is not personal, its completely unbiased and the results are what they are, our personal tastes have nothing to do with what each has that the other doesn't.

You can game on whatever you want, but if you enetr a internet topic where 360 and PS3 are compared, you stick to that criteria, and only that cirteria. How you interpret that data is up to you based on your personal gaming platforms, but the results are what they are if limited to a strict comparison.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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colafitte on 16 July 2013

Alan Wake is not a game considered an exclusive for any platform, but in a comparison with ps3, Alan Wake is available on X360 and not on PS3. You can have a PC or not, but this doesn't change the fact that if you only have a ps3 you can't play Alan Wake.



sales2099 on 16 July 2013
colafitte said:
Alan Wake is not a game considered an exclusive for any platform, but in a comparison with ps3, Alan Wake is available on X360 and not on PS3. You can have a PC or not, but this doesn't change the fact that if you only have a ps3 you can't play Alan Wake.

I am glad it is starting to make sense to others.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 16 July 2013
CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:
Alan Wake is not a game considered an exclusive for any platform, but in a comparison with ps3, Alan Wake is available on X360 and not on PS3. You can have a PC or not, but this doesn't change the fact that if you only have a ps3 you can't play Alan Wake.

Of course not, but the 360 and PS3 don't exist in a vaccuum. 

Ofcourse not, but there is nothing wrong with a rivalry, which basically points out 2 opposing sides in a sea of competitors. This is no different. Nothing wrong with limiting a comparison to 2 entities and only 2 entities if one so chooses to.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Aldro on 16 July 2013
Necromunda said:
VGKing said:
Platform Exclusives vs Console Exclusives.

The latter are bound to end up on both eventually. The Witcher 3 is coming to both PS4 and XB1. Dead Rising will most likely go multi as well once the XB1 game flops. Titanfall will come to PS4 eventually....etc...etc.

I prefer platform exclusives. The ones that stay exclusive such as 1st party titles.


This, honestly.

Also, just to note to those in this thread who are essentially stating us Playstation gamers can't use PC in our argument... Lets put it this way... I personally own a gaming PC, what incentive do I have to get an Xbox One when most of the games will be coming to the PC as well, and can play them on the rig I already own? To me it logically makes more sense to buy a PS4, since most of the PS4's exlusives are first party games that won't be coming to PC. With the notable exception of Sony's SOE games. Sure, not everyone have a PC capable of playing new PC games, but for those of us that do, we are justified in using this argument all day long as it's one of the key reasons I wont be purchasing an Xbox One in the foreseeable future. 

NO!

1 VERSUS 1 MAN, IT AINT FAIR OTHERWISE. IGNORE YOUR OWN PC!

Lol...



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kupomogli on 16 July 2013
attaboy said:
Like one guy said: Let's just compare the available games on one vs the available games on the other. Don't assume somebody has additional hardware that you may or may not have. When it's one on one, we should just compare what's AVAILABLE.

I'm refraining from using the "E" word.

E-Penis! Whoops. It slipped.

Who doesn't own a PC these days?  Anyone who has bought a PC at Walmart in the past seven years should be able to play a lot of the Xbox "exclusives."



sales2099 on 16 July 2013
Aldro said:
Necromunda said:
VGKing said:
Platform Exclusives vs Console Exclusives.

The latter are bound to end up on both eventually. The Witcher 3 is coming to both PS4 and XB1. Dead Rising will most likely go multi as well once the XB1 game flops. Titanfall will come to PS4 eventually....etc...etc.

I prefer platform exclusives. The ones that stay exclusive such as 1st party titles.


This, honestly.

Also, just to note to those in this thread who are essentially stating us Playstation gamers can't use PC in our argument... Lets put it this way... I personally own a gaming PC, what incentive do I have to get an Xbox One when most of the games will be coming to the PC as well, and can play them on the rig I already own? To me it logically makes more sense to buy a PS4, since most of the PS4's exlusives are first party games that won't be coming to PC. With the notable exception of Sony's SOE games. Sure, not everyone have a PC capable of playing new PC games, but for those of us that do, we are justified in using this argument all day long as it's one of the key reasons I wont be purchasing an Xbox One in the foreseeable future. 

NO!

1 VERSUS 1 MAN, IT AINT FAIR OTHERWISE. IGNORE YOUR OWN PC!

Lol...

If a thread says 360 vs PS3 vs PC....your more then welcome to include PC.

If a thread says 360 vs PS3....you stick to.....um.....360 and PS3.....because that is the criteria set out.....1 vs 1.

I am amazed how simple this can be yet so hard to grasp for some.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

VGKing on 16 July 2013

BTW People, it goes both ways. DC Universe Online and Free Realms don't show up on these lists because they are also on PC. I do think they should be counted though, on both platforms. Won't make much of a difference though.



Baer on 16 July 2013

I don't count xbox titles that get to the PC at any point as exclusives.
I've got my PC, I can get these games. The PC is just another "console" in that point, though it's out of competition cuz everyone has one.
Real exclusives (xbox only or PS only) is what counts. That's why you can get the most out of the Wii/PC combo ;)

 

In case you don't have an okay Pc for gaming the xbox isn't even too shabby, but seriously, what exclusives will you miss in most cases? Halo got uninteresting for most after Halo 3, you could replace your Forza with GT. Fable lost kind of its awesomeness since Fable1. For PS its in most cases Naughy Dog that won the exclusive war (Uncharted/Last of us) already.

 

If you need your xbox exclusives -> get it.



J_Allard on 16 July 2013

I like to play good games. I don't care about whether it's on some other platform or not. This is something a potential new customer might care about years after release when making a purchase decision, it's not something people like us should care about when we already own the consoles lol.

I will say this though, people throwing out games also on PC are kind of missing the point. That would be like throwing away PS3 games that are also on Vita. Fact of the matter is a huge number of gamers either don't own PC's, don't own gaming PC's, or prefer console gaming. If the games existing on either console are as meaningless as some are making it seem, Sony and MS would not make an effort to get them on their console.