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Brazil?

Holly cow... 28 23.53%
 
What a dump... 17 14.29%
 
Jesus Christ man... 37 31.09%
 
Wow, just wow... 37 31.09%
 
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Player2 on 02 July 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
Augen said:
When were the last elections? What happened in them regarding tax discussion?

When are the next elections? What is the discussion regarding taxes?


Next year. They NEVER discuss lowering the taxes, we have dozens of political parties and NONE would even bring that up.

Your politicians still have a lot to do to catch up.

In Spain taxes are discussed before elections. Here a party that said they'll lower taxes was elected, and after they got power they raised them.



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the2real4mafol on 02 July 2013

Not like most of them can afford video games though



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Gehirnkrampf on 02 July 2013

It would be a good move for the Brasil economy and the gamers to make a deal between the government and Sony/Microsoft.
Any console manufactured in Brasil gets taxed for like 19 percent, any console manufactured outside gets taxed the 70 percent like before.

-> Sony/MS would be forced to produce in brasil, and i think the brasil market has the potential to grow rapidly, and it would be a keymarket to the south american countries
-> Jobs
-> more sales, more tax income

so now it is Sony or Microsofts move to do some lobbyism and open that new market. i think it would be worth the effort. the first who enters the market would gain massive advance there...



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WagnerPaiva on 02 July 2013
Chris Hu said:

Interesting since their is a 80% tax on tobacco how much does a pack of cigarettes cost in Brazil (don't smoke myself just curious).


http://www.supermercadoelias.com.br/showroom.php?_g=014001

Around R$ 6,00 a pack, which is roughly 3 U$D.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva on 02 July 2013
Gehirnkrampf said:
It would be a good move for the Brasil economy and the gamers to make a deal between the government and Sony/Microsoft.
Any console manufactured in Brasil gets taxed for like 19 percent, any console manufactured outside gets taxed the 70 percent like before.

-> Sony/MS would be forced to produce in brasil, and i think the brasil market has the potential to grow rapidly, and it would be a keymarket to the south american countries
-> Jobs
-> more sales, more tax income

so now it is Sony or Microsofts move to do some lobbyism and open that new market. i think it would be worth the effort. the first who enters the market would gain massive advance there...

That is what Sony is trying to do right now, they are all over the Congress trying to get some revision on the video game taxes. I am afraid they are not going to win this one.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

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WagnerPaiva on 02 July 2013
Player2 said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Augen said:
When were the last elections? What happened in them regarding tax discussion?

When are the next elections? What is the discussion regarding taxes?


Next year. They NEVER discuss lowering the taxes, we have dozens of political parties and NONE would even bring that up.

Your politicians still have a lot to do to catch up.

In Spain taxes are discussed before elections. Here a party that said they'll lower taxes was elected, and after they got power they raised them.

Now you are talking, this is good old fashioned Tirany in my book =/



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva on 02 July 2013
the2real4mafol said:
Not like most of them can afford video games though


The thing is: we don´t give a shit here. If we really want a console, we freaking buy it with a payment plan or something, and then work our asses to pay it.

I had a friend who made around 300 U$D a month, really poor kid. He bought a PS3 for U$D 600 and payed selling ice cream and chocolates door to door while working at weekends in a autoshop, besides his regular job.

Pretty brave kid, kinda dumb, but a brave one.

I gave him a couple of my games out of simpathy, Mercenaires 2 and Tomb Raider Underworld.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

SnowPrince on 02 July 2013

Yeah same here in north africa, we have a potential audience for video games, we have multiple stores but everyone just goes import or someone just buy many consoles abroad and sell it for a higher price here. This concerns IT, cars,.. Our governements still think these objects are only for upper-social class.



WagnerPaiva on 02 July 2013
SnowPrince said:
Yeah same here in north africa, we have a potential audience for video games, we have multiple stores but everyone just goes import or someone just buy many consoles abroad and sell it for a higher price here. This concerns IT, cars,.. Our governements still think these objects are only for upper-social class.

Yes, just like here, it seems the laws are in a struggle to keep up with reality in Africa too =/



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

Rogerioandrade on 02 July 2013

It´s not just about videogames... it´s about almost everything.... from air tickets to fruits and sneakers. Everything tech-related is very expensive in Brazil, computers, cell phones, game consoles....

It´s no wonder why Brazilians lately are so angry with their government and are doing lots and lots of protests. Too many taxes and zero investment in infrasctructure, social services and State modernization.