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curl-6 on 30 June 2013
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them.

It's common sense to trust the devs who have shown they know what they're talking about with their results.



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curl-6 on 30 June 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=67125671&postcount=6931 here is his last post in the wiiu gpu thead, which nobody disputes it, he confirms it with proof what more do you want. a developer or a nintendo designed would never leak anything like that unless they wanna break nda and suffer a severe punishment.

Anonymous members of an internet forum agreeing on something doesn't equal technical proof.

Your thread title is misleading, that's all. You should change it to something, like "neogaf user claims 160SP for Wii U GPU".


as far as i know fourth storm is not just some neogaf user, he was trusted to handle the wiiu gpu pic project, he and chip works have given us more info then anybody, including nintendo. his explanation is solid proof, unless anybody can dispute it.

This is really, really funny. You know just how bad you're making yourself look at the moment, dude?

First, you admit you don't know who he is, that he could be anyone without credentials. You're asking us to take the word of a nobody.

Secondly, the post you're referring to is itself written as speculation, not proof.



ninjablade on 30 June 2013
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them.

It's common sense to trust the devs who have shown they know what they're talking about with their results.

shinen is more trusted then multi platform developers, that make much better looking games

 



curl-6 on 30 June 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them.

It's common sense to trust the devs who have shown they know what they're talking about with their results.

shinen is more truted then multi platform developers, that make much better looking games

Shin'en's 80MB downloadable launch title looks better than just about any of the other dev's Wii U games, so yes. They have a proven track record too, of technical excellence, and none of lying.



mii-gamer on 30 June 2013
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them, except  ther eliving.

Which developer was that? The rumors that emerged before the launch from an annonymous source. Lol good one 

here is some proof for you brother

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/10/wii-u-developer-wii-u-is-a-powerful-versatile-machine/

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.391841-Ubisoft-Wii-U-is-Surprisingly-Powerful

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/shinen_multimedia_defends_the_wii_u_hardware

http://au.gamespot.com/news/valve-says-wii-u-fits-better-with-its-tech-6320886



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ninjablade on 30 June 2013
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them.

It's common sense to trust the devs who have shown they know what they're talking about with their results.

shinen is more truted then multi platform developers, that make much better looking games

Shin'en's 80MB downloadable launch title looks better than just about any of the other dev's Wii U games, so yes. They have a proven track record too, of technical excellence, and none of lying.

techically there are way more impressive games, but if you think it looks the best thats fine, but the fact is its not even close to being the most techically impressive.



ninjablade on 30 June 2013
mii-gamer said:
ninjablade said:
mii-gamer said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Also, misleading title. Nothing was confirmed. A guess was made.


he says he's sure of it and if you read the info on neogaf its baically 100% confirmed but i guess you can keep on denying it.

But who is fourth storm? A developer with extensive Wii U dev experience? A hardware designer at Nintendo?

He made a guess based on the available information. He may well be right, but that's not the meaning of the word "confirm".


Ninjablade is correct. Forum dwellers have more knoledge than a developer. We should take the word of some guy on a forum and completely ignore comments from professionals who have worked closely with hardward like shin'en.

like the developer that said wiiu is weaker then 360, or the one that said the wiiu is on par with current gen, i think you know who they are, why not trust them, i guess we should trust a exlusive nintedo developer, of course they would wanna sell the wiiu as being more powerful, whats in it for them, except  ther eliving.

Which developer was that? The rumors that emerged before the launch from an annonymous source. Lol good one 

here is some proof for you brother

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/10/wii-u-developer-wii-u-is-a-powerful-versatile-machine/

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.391841-Ubisoft-Wii-U-is-Surprisingly-Powerful

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/shinen_multimedia_defends_the_wii_u_hardware

http://au.gamespot.com/news/valve-says-wii-u-fits-better-with-its-tech-6320886

your point? developers reaction has been mixed, some saying its weak, some saying its on par, some saying its more powerful, the reality is its a 160sp gpu thats hughly effeciant, its probably more powerful then 360, cause its way more effeciant buts its basically a console thats on par with currentgen.



DevilRising on 30 June 2013
burninmylight said:
The next ninjablade post I see that doesn't have something to do with crapping on the Wii U will be the first one.


Well, some people have to have SOMETHING to keep them going in life right. If not a spiteful, obsessed tech-geek, then WHAT, I ask you?



curl-6 on 30 June 2013
ninjablade said:

techically there are way more impressive games, but if you think it looks the best thats fine, but the fact is its not even close to being the most techically impressive.

Except that Shin'en are a 5 man team with a tiny budget and yet still beat most third party Wii U devs many times their size. They've proven their technical know-how time and again over the years, and have never been caught lying.



Egann on 30 June 2013

So...some dude with a camera phone and an ability to use technical acronyms says the shader count is 160.

Notably absent information: how does this compare with other hardware out there? Does it adversely affect performance? And most importantly, why the blazes should I care about shader-count when it's a Nintendo product that uses a bloody touchscreen as a major input Power was never going to be the system's strong-suit, so the question is "is it good enough?"