I was thinking of buying a cheap HTPC for the living room.

Maybe looking out for the Raven Bridge APU for a small build. Though DDR4 prices are silly expensive at the moment. Failing that, maybe I should look into older platforms (AM3)? As I already have a spare pair of DDR3 ram put away.

Today is international day of finding out what causes the random stutter in my Rocket League. I think I can safely exclude general performance issues as the stutter happens on every framerate while GPU and CPU are completely bored. It also seems unlikely that it's sync issues between multiple monitors as it also happens on a single monitor.

The first bets are in and Twitch is a strong contender. Could not reliably recreate the issue though. Also still looking into disk usage.

That was my original fear. That the gains come from clock upticks.

QUAKECore89 said: Gotta wait for the infamous argument advice. "Core i5 is a sweet spot, it's all you need for gaming!" -2011 I'm sorry, i can't stop forgetting lol...

The Core i5 is *still* the sweet sport for gaming. For Intel. lol

Pro's of an IGP:
* Low power consumption. (Important for notebooks and provides big advantages with systems that use Optimus.)
* Integrated into the CPU, thus shares the same cooler and allows for smaller form factors. (Important for SFF/HTPC's)
* Great for troubleshooting. (Allowing you to do a process of elimination.)
* Quicksync. (For Intel.)
* Free. (Essentially.)
* Crossfire with another budget card. (For AMD.)

AM3 is generally a terrible platform to buy into anyway. It's dead.
It also doesn't support DDR4, PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, USB C, Sata 3+.

FM2+ is probably more viable for HTPC use, but it is also dead.

I would personally opt for an ITX build, something like a Ryzen 3+Asus Prime A320M-K is a good way to go. Unless you can get an AM4 APU.
You generally want a Graphics Core Next 1.3+ GPU as it supports newer video decoding technology and generally improved power states...

And later if you wish to turn it into a gaming rig, you have the room to do so.

If you want something cheap and nasty... Just buy a cheap $20-$30 Android TV box off ebay and see if a HTPC is your thing.

Whats your system specs?
Have you turned Windows 10's gaming mode off?

I have disabled Game DVR now but after I updated my GPU driver and rebooting several times while troubleshooting I didn't have the stutters anymore for some hours.

Future will show when they come up again.

It was true back then, because HT doesn't always help in games, and it will be true again with the 8600K & 1600X because both will offer the best of both worlds: high frequencies for gaming (at least when OC) and more cores for background tasks.

Well, a Raven Bridge APU will be your best bet, obviously, but we don't know when AMD will launch it.

Nah, JEMC. You don't have to knowledge, i'm just have feeling weird because of time has changed. Ironically, i have second PC for gaming which is Ryzen 5 1600 being equiped lol

Pemalite said: QUAKECore89 said: Gotta wait for the infamous argument advice. "Core i5 is a sweet spot, it's all you need for gaming!" -2011 I'm sorry, i can't stop forgetting remembering lol... The Core i5 is *still* the sweet sport for gaming. For Intel. lol

It won't ever change because the brand name is still there, but the reason will be a tiny bit different, hexacore that is all, for those people want to play big games like BF1 and other latest open world games(if they optimized 6 cores).

I'm expecting Core i5 8600K will be $280 more or less. 

Well. Hyper-Threading hasn't ever been a game changer (Pun intended) for gaming anyway.
In-fact one annoying part was that in Minecraft, windows would run the game on a Single Core+Hyper Thread, which would introduce a slight stutter. - Throwing it onto two real cores removed that issue completely as you remove any resource contention.

Coffee Lake i5 should bring Hex-Core goodness to the mainstream and should continue the sweet-spot point for Intel, Quad-Cores will still be gaming-capable for many years to come though.

This is indeed because of game developers made people always go buy core i5, they refused to give a shot on hyper-threading and rather focus on physical cores, so, yeah.. Gamers were disappointed and they were like let's just stick with core i3/i5, i7 is a pointless CPU thanks to the lazy developers ever give a shot. In the end, gamers agreed.

Seriously though, core i3/i5/i7(i9 is a parody) sounds too dated for a new coffee lake architecture, we need a coolest name to evolve a new era. >:(

10% perf increase in single threaded is pretty good, but in what time frame? When is these processors being relaesed? I'm interested in an i7-8600K. These extra threads are youthless, 6 cores is more than enuff for gaming and even have a browser and other programs running in the background.