Here's my comment on Nvidia Generally:
Good job on DX11/OGL, and next time focus on DX12/Vulkan.
Here's my comment on Nvidia Generally:
Good job on DX11/OGL, and next time focus on DX12/Vulkan.
vivster said:
What does AMD have in the low end that's not already dominated by Intel and Nvidia? I doubt that APUs are very common in prebuilds where most of the low end is. Polaris is only midrange and currently outperformed by the 1060 in both performance and availability. Do you really think that 30 bucks less for less performance will make a big difference? That leaves themn with only 2 options to make a big splash this year, Zen and Vega. Vega will probably outperform a 1080 and will then be crushed by Big Pascal soon after. Zen might as well have the same performance and IPC as Intel and would still probably be left behind. If anything the coming gens for AMD's products are only little stepping stones to a hopefully better gen after it. Then again Intel and Nvidia aren't resting on their laurels. It kinda feels hopeless. |
AMD has the 460 & 470, which will deliver a lot more performance than any integrated graphic chip can, while being cheap enough ($100 & $150). That will greatly help AMD to gain marketshare as they'll be more powerful than any competing products available. At least until Nvidia launches the 1050, whenever that happens.
And those $30 are just in theory. You'll have a rough time to find a 1060 priced at the $249 MSRP, with most of them being close to $300. And that's just in the US, because over here in Europe the 1060 is more like 350 € while the 480 is still 300 € (when you can find it). It's not a clear cut decision, with both cards being good choices.
As for Vega and Zen, we know so little about them (I mean real info, not rumors) that it's not worth speculating about them (tho I think Vega will be roughly on par with the 1080). And AMD's goal in the CPU market is not about defeating Intel, because Zen won't be faster than current Skylake CPUs or the future Kaby Lake ones, but rather doing better than they're doing right now.
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I just showed them people, & what i get the answer from those people? "Fake graph".


| QUAKECore89 said: I just showed them people, & what i get the answer from those people? "Fake graph".
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Seems about right. AMD fans love to forget that Pascal is a great improvement over Maxwell when it comes to DX12, Vulkan and async. Not as good as we hoped for but still good. The 1060 is already close in performance to the 980 but naturally outperforms it when it comes to newer technology. AMD cards are still better at it which is why the 390x is closing the gap to the 1060 and 1070 a bit at DX12.
I hope Nvidia removes that Stigma completely with Volta.
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vivster said:
Seems about right. AMD fans love to forget that Pascal is a great improvement over Maxwell when it comes to DX12, Vulkan and async. Not as good as we hoped for but still good. The 1060 is already close in performance to the 980 but naturally outperforms it when it comes to newer technology. AMD cards are still better at it which is why the 390x is closing the gap to the 1060 and 1070 a bit at DX12. I hope Nvidia removes that Stigma completely with Volta. |
Nope... It's the angry 980/970 users. Can you tell me what happened?

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QUAKECore89 said:
Nope... It's the angry 980/970 users. Can you tell me what happened? |
Well, probably because 970/980 buyers aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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| JEMC said: Nvidia has caught AMD with their pants down in terms of performance, no doubts about it. They have the high end market locked with the 1070&1080, and with the 1060 they're also very, very competitive in the mid range one. It's only in the low end market where AMD can really cause them trouble, which isn't that great as it's also the market with the smaller profit margins. That said, AMD wanted to regain marketshare with Polaris, and even if it comes from the low end, they look like they'll be able to do it. |
I don't know about that ...
AMD doesn't know a thing about capturing marketshare. The "value" brand doesn't do anything for AMD's bottomline in terms of getting marketshare while Nvidia is dominating with their "high-end" brand perception but on the bright side AMD can take pride in their DX12/Vulkan performance leadership aside from Rise of the Tomb Raider ...
AMD is pretty much done as far as competing in DX11 games so their getting on Noah's Ark (DX12) and dependening how giddy Microsoft feels about project Scorpio including about it being rumored to be more powerful than PS4 Neo they might reward AMD some more optimizations on the API level which is the key to their salvation ...
fatslob-:O said:
I don't know about that ... AMD doesn't know a thing about capturing marketshare. The "value" brand doesn't do anything for AMD's bottomline in terms of getting marketshare while Nvidia is dominating with their "high-end" brand perception but on the bright side AMD can take pride in their DX12/Vulkan performance leadership aside from Rise of the Tomb Raider ... AMD is pretty much done as far as competing in DX11 games so their getting on Noah's Ark (DX12) and dependening how giddy Microsoft feels about project Scorpio including about it being rumored to be more powerful than PS4 Neo they might reward AMD some more optimizations on the API level which is the key to their salvation ... |
AMD has gained marketshare in the last quarters despite competing against the 960 and 970.
Price is still a very important factor when it comes to choose a GPU, and this time around Nvidia will only have 2, the 1050 & 1060, because the other two are out of reach for the majority of the consumers.
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>>Ryuu96 has a thread about it: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=218766
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>>Check out Basil's thread about this story: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=218768
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