6700 XTs with FMF would have been a mega bang for the buck.
Probably going to be ordering a new PC very, very soon, and while I'm happy to finally upgrade, I really don't like the current market situation:
Anyway, thinking of something like this:
Zkuq said: Probably going to be ordering a new PC very, very soon, and while I'm happy to finally upgrade, I really don't like the current market situation:
Anyway, thinking of something like this:
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CPU: If you buy it while it's on sale + with Starfield, it could be a pretty good deal.
GPU: Now you know that I am the type of person that loves Nvidia's technology and the features they bring to the table. But I'd seriously reconsider getting a 4060 because DLSS 3 adds to the vram requirement of games and with 8GB of vram plus the capabilities of the 4060, you really won't have a good time imo. 4060 really is a 1080p card and DLSS3 doesn't look very good when rendering at that low of a resolution. I'd highly consider either a 6700XT or a 3060 12GB. 6700XT would be my go to even if you miss out on DLSS because it has both Raster and Vram to run modern games at pretty good frame rates. You can also choose 3060 if you want Nvidia's features like Reflex and it's discounted a good amount but 6700XT will be a lot faster than it.
Motherboard: Between those 3, I'd get Asus and enable "Memory Context Restore" and it will fix any boot time issues. Since you want to keep it a long time and upgrade in the future by the sounds of it, I'd rather get the goodies the Asus one provides.
Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 27 August 2023
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
CPU's aren't to badly priced at the moment. The 7000 series is roughly inline with the 5000 series in terms of pricing.
The extra massive costs was always due to Motherboards and Ram sadly.
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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said: CPU: If you buy it while it's on sale + with Starfield, it could be a pretty good deal. GPU: Now you know that I am the type of person that loves Nvidia's technology and the features they bring to the table. But I'd seriously reconsider getting a 4060 because DLSS 3 adds to the vram requirement of games and with 8GB of vram plus the capabilities of the 4060, you really won't have a good time imo. 4060 really is a 1080p card and DLSS3 doesn't look very good when rendering at that low of a resolution. I'd highly consider either a 6700XT or a 3060 12GB. 6700XT would be my go to even if you miss out on DLSS because it has both Raster and Vram to run modern games at pretty good frame rates. You can also choose 3060 if you want Nvidia's features like Reflex and it's discounted a good amount but 6700XT will be a lot faster than it. Motherboard: Between those 3, I'd get Asus and enable "Memory Context Restore" and it will fix any boot time issues. Since you want to keep it a long time and upgrade in the future by the sounds of it, I'd rather get the goodies the Asus one provides. |
Yeah, Starfield is definitely sweetening the deal for me. I haven't been terrible excited for it due to its theme, but it's Bethesda, so I'm expecting the game to suck me right in anyway. Not sure if there are going to be any sales any time soon, and I kind of want a new PC before Cities: Skylines 2 comes up, which doesn't help (there go the Black Friday deals).
Thanks for the advise on the GPU! I'll look into this a bit more, although I suspect an RTX 4060 won't be too bad for my needs. I'm not too fond of the other suggestions though: an RTX 3060 isn't that much cheaper here (unless buying used, where availability is so-so, but I might go for it anyway if I find a good deal), and the RX 6700 XT might end up costing too much to justify the extra cost (the XFX RX 6700 XT is the only one with a decent price at the moment, but it has only 10 GB of VRAM + I'll definitely miss out on any benefits DLSS might have, which I'm still expecting to be some). Really poor situation though.
What kinds of goodies might you be talking about with regard to Asus? As far as I can see, all three seem to have quite similar specs (aside from WiFi, which I won't be using), but I might be able to save a bit by getting an ASRock one (PG Lightning). I suppose Asus might have support for longer, but that's just speculation until I learn otherwise.
Pemalite said: CPU's aren't to badly priced at the moment. The 7000 series is roughly inline with the 5000 series in terms of pricing. |
I don't really think CPUs in general are priced badly, it's just the 7700 whose pricing I'm not fond of. It's quite far from the 7600 and relatively close to the 7800X3D in terms of price, and I feel like it should be a bit closer to the 7600 (250 € vs. 360 € vs. 435 € or so). It's quite expensive to get an 8-core CPU or better here, which is what I'd like for maximal future-proofing, if you care about power efficiency at the moment.
Zkuq said:
Yeah, Starfield is definitely sweetening the deal for me. I haven't been terrible excited for it due to its theme, but it's Bethesda, so I'm expecting the game to suck me right in anyway. Not sure if there are going to be any sales any time soon, and I kind of want a new PC before Cities: Skylines 2 comes up, which doesn't help (there go the Black Friday deals). Thanks for the advise on the GPU! I'll look into this a bit more, although I suspect an RTX 4060 won't be too bad for my needs. I'm not too fond of the other suggestions though: an RTX 3060 isn't that much cheaper here (unless buying used, where availability is so-so, but I might go for it anyway if I find a good deal), and the RX 6700 XT might end up costing too much to justify the extra cost (the XFX RX 6700 XT is the only one with a decent price at the moment, but it has only 10 GB of VRAM + I'll definitely miss out on any benefits DLSS might have, which I'm still expecting to be some). Really poor situation though. What kinds of goodies might you be talking about with regard to Asus? As far as I can see, all three seem to have quite similar specs (aside from WiFi, which I won't be using), but I might be able to save a bit by getting an ASRock one (PG Lightning). I suppose Asus might have support for longer, but that's just speculation until I learn otherwise. |
Yea it highly depends on the gpu situation as that price range is quite a mess.
And yea, the goodies are mainly minor like better audio since Asus has shielding and such so you won't get any weird interference or pop outs and Asus one has Wifi 6 + Bluetooth so you can easily connect controllers and you get secondary SSD heatsinks. But Asrock does have more USB ports so it is a bit of a trade off depending on what you value more. But if you don't value the extra stuff, then yea you can try to go with Asrock and see how it goes. Especially if you can use the savings to get a better GPU experience.
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said: And yea, the goodies are mainly minor like better audio since Asus has shielding and such so you won't get any weird interference or pop outs and Asus one has Wifi 6 + Bluetooth so you can easily connect controllers and you get secondary SSD heatsinks. But Asrock does have more USB ports so it is a bit of a trade off depending on what you value more. But if you don't value the extra stuff, then yea you can try to go with Asrock and see how it goes. Especially if you can use the savings to get a better GPU experience. |
Ah, I see. Good to know. That interference part has me intrigued, and I suppose Bluetooth might be useful at some point - probably more so than some extra USB ports, which I have fairly little use for anyway.
Also, it's not exactly a tradeoff where I can invest more if I save somewhere else, it's more about only investing for what I think I can actually get enough value out of, and I'd like to cheap out where I don't get much value out of the extra I could spend.
Zkuq said:
I don't really think CPUs in general are priced badly, it's just the 7700 whose pricing I'm not fond of. It's quite far from the 7600 and relatively close to the 7800X3D in terms of price, and I feel like it should be a bit closer to the 7600 (250 € vs. 360 € vs. 435 € or so). It's quite expensive to get an 8-core CPU or better here, which is what I'd like for maximal future-proofing, if you care about power efficiency at the moment. |
Ah. Euro. That mixes it up.
The 7600 is 6 cores @ 349.
The 7700 is 8 cores @ 499.
The 7800X3D is 8 cores+Lots cache @ 639.
That's Australian.
So the jump between the 7600 > 7700 > 7800 is roughly $150 here. It's not to bad.
Interesting to see how the lineup is staggered different in another region.
For me the ideal CPU is the 7950X anyway at $899.
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I wouldn't get a 8GB graphics card in 2023 tbh.. that's going to get real rough by the end of this year, never mind in a year or twos time. And that's going to have to last you until 2026 when Nvidia decides to launch the 5060.
Zkuq said:
Yeah, Starfield is definitely sweetening the deal for me. I haven't been terrible excited for it due to its theme, but it's Bethesda, so I'm expecting the game to suck me right in anyway. Not sure if there are going to be any sales any time soon, and I kind of want a new PC before Cities: Skylines 2 comes up, which doesn't help (there go the Black Friday deals). Thanks for the advise on the GPU! I'll look into this a bit more, although I suspect an RTX 4060 won't be too bad for my needs. I'm not too fond of the other suggestions though: an RTX 3060 isn't that much cheaper here (unless buying used, where availability is so-so, but I might go for it anyway if I find a good deal), and the RX 6700 XT might end up costing too much to justify the extra cost (the XFX RX 6700 XT is the only one with a decent price at the moment, but it has only 10 GB of VRAM + I'll definitely miss out on any benefits DLSS might have, which I'm still expecting to be some). Really poor situation though. What kinds of goodies might you be talking about with regard to Asus? As far as I can see, all three seem to have quite similar specs (aside from WiFi, which I won't be using), but I might be able to save a bit by getting an ASRock one (PG Lightning). I suppose Asus might have support for longer, but that's just speculation until I learn otherwise. |
6700XT is a 12GB card.
The 6700 vanilla is 10GB.
FSR is improving very rapidly and gaining more support in games.
The 6700XT is the best price/performance card currently.
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