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ASUS ROG Ally gaming console to feature AMD Ryzen 7 7840U Zen4/RDNA3 APU

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-gaming-console-to-feature-amd-ryzen-7-7840u-zen4-rdna3-apu

So 8 cores 16 threads + 780M GPU

Jacob Freeman departs from Evga and Bryan Del Rizzo retires from Nvidia

End of an Era. Jacob was really the face of Evga and their PR. Bryan Del Rizzo is someone that many media outlets like Linus and Steve from GN has had fond memories of. He was also involved with the "Hardware Unboxed Editorial Change" drama a few years ago. Whether or not he issued the signature or it was a rogue employee, he was the one that made it right. We will see how his replacement does.

NVIDIA Can Counter AMD With GeForce RTX 40 GPU Price Cuts At Any Time But In No Hurry

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-counter-amd-with-geforce-rtx-40-gpu-price-cuts-at-any-time-but-in-no-hurry/

Overclocked Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon Workstation CPUs Paired With NVIDIA RTX 4090 Require Up To 2000W Power

https://wccftech.com/overclocked-intel-sapphire-rapids-xeon-workstation-cpus-paired-with-nvidia-rtx-4090-require-up-to-2000w-power/

AMD’s Custom EPYC 9V84 Genoa CPU Leaked: 96 Zen 4 Cores, 2.4 GHz Clocks, Over 110K Points In Cinebench R23

https://wccftech.com/amd-custom-epyc-9v84-genoa-cpu-leak-96-zen-4-cores-2-4-ghz-clocks-over-110k-points-cinebench/



                  

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3080 vs 6800XT 2023 revisit

6800XT at 1440p is 2% slower than 3080 in Raster only
6800XT at 4k is 6% slower than 3080 in Raster only

But the key thing is that 3080s are not only getting hard to find, the ones that you can find are well above MSRP. While the 6800XTs can be found for $500 USD. So while 3080 is faster in Raster and faster in Ray Tracing and DLSS is leagues better than FSR, the price gap is hard to justify.



                  

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The only 3080s available here go for 1400$ and up now, 1600$+ for the Ti version. 3060Ti also goes for a minimum of 600$—mad pricing on last gen, just like the current.

There's no proper, discernable reason for GPUs to be this expensive. I'm glad I didn't wait any longer, the situation was supposed to sort itself out once stock filled up and the crypto craze died down along with the pandemic, but no such luck. I just looked at some prices on the 4070, it sits right along the same price as my 980Ti did when it first launched, and that was king of the hill back then (my EVGA cost about 820$ in 2015 when I built my rig).



Captain_Yuri said:

3080 vs 6800XT 2023 revisit

6800XT at 1440p is 2% slower than 3080 in Raster only
6800XT at 4k is 6% slower than 3080 in Raster only

But the key thing is that 3080s are not only getting hard to find, the ones that you can find are well above MSRP. While the 6800XTs can be found for $500 USD. So while 3080 is faster in Raster and faster in Ray Tracing and DLSS is leagues better than FSR, the price gap is hard to justify.

Besides the price gap, you also have the new, Nvidia invented negative, the fact that they've locked the latest DLSS/fake frames behind the 4000 series, meaning the 3000 series has one less DLSS, but still a high price to pay for one.

See this doesn't create a good look later on, when you invent slightly new tech that stems from already existing and in use tech, then leave the prev card out in the cold.

Imagine AMD making FSR, then by FSR 3.0, they leave their last gen card behind, it wouldn't be a good look.



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Mummelmann said:

The only 3080s available here go for 1400$ and up now, 1600$+ for the Ti version. 3060Ti also goes for a minimum of 600$—mad pricing on last gen, just like the current.

There's no proper, discernable reason for GPUs to be this expensive. I'm glad I didn't wait any longer, the situation was supposed to sort itself out once stock filled up and the crypto craze died down along with the pandemic, but no such luck. I just looked at some prices on the 4070, it sits right along the same price as my 980Ti did when it first launched, and that was king of the hill back then (my EVGA cost about 820$ in 2015 when I built my rig).

I feel like because of the way the world is atm (covid lingering, war on the EU side, Recession kicking in, crypto still hanging around, Nvidia being greedy), that some retailers and ppl selling those cards are just being non-ashamedly greedy, because those are last gen cards, ppl want the latest, or at least middle best of the latest, so there isn't any real need to raise the prices of last gen cards to current gen prices.

It just comes off as pure selfish greed.

I've not had this big of an issue with GPU's since forever ago, and these days it's either out of stock or well beyond my price reach, or just a shit line-up. Like what a laughable and bad state GPU's are in atm.

Last edited by Chazore - on 18 April 2023

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Chazore said:
Mummelmann said:

The only 3080s available here go for 1400$ and up now, 1600$+ for the Ti version. 3060Ti also goes for a minimum of 600$—mad pricing on last gen, just like the current.

There's no proper, discernable reason for GPUs to be this expensive. I'm glad I didn't wait any longer, the situation was supposed to sort itself out once stock filled up and the crypto craze died down along with the pandemic, but no such luck. I just looked at some prices on the 4070, it sits right along the same price as my 980Ti did when it first launched, and that was king of the hill back then (my EVGA cost about 820$ in 2015 when I built my rig).

I feel like because of the way the world is atm (covid lingering, war on the EU side, Recession kicking in, crypto still hanging around, Nvidia being greedy), that some retailers and ppl selling those cards are just being non-ashamedly greedy, because those are last gen cards, ppl want the latest, or at least middle best of the latest, so there isn't any real need to raise the prices of last gen cards to current gen prices.

It just comes off as pure selfish greed.

I've not had this big of an issue with GPU's since forever ago, and these days it's either out of stock or well beyond my price reach, or just a shit line-up. Like what a laughable and bad state GPU's are in atm.

Yeah, and it's just so jarring, seeing as CPUs and motherboards are priced much more reasonably in comparison. As is storage and RAM; you can get som big, blazing fast M.2 drives for cheap now, and memory is bargain bin compared to a couple of years back. Paying +- 600$ for a top-of-the-line CPU wasn't unreasonable even years ago, nor was 350-400$ a crazy amount for a good MOBO. I remember paying triple price for my RAM due to the tsunami in Asia, which made perfect sense since several production facilities were literally washed away. Big fires have also impacted pricing. But GPU prices seem to be flying in the face of all other hardware right now.

The automotive industry has largely recovered, as has appliance sectors, the chip shortage turned into a chip surplus, after all. Here in Stockholm, car dealerships have overflowing storages of unsold cars since factories went into overdrive after the shortage, and are tossing out bargains left and right (been looking for cars for work for the past six months or so). There are other factors behind that as well (like new EU policies and crazy taxation), but the point is that the shortage crisis is largely solved across the board (pun very much intended). Heck; even the PS5 can be found out in the wild now! :P



Chazore said:
Captain_Yuri said:

3080 vs 6800XT 2023 revisit

6800XT at 1440p is 2% slower than 3080 in Raster only
6800XT at 4k is 6% slower than 3080 in Raster only

But the key thing is that 3080s are not only getting hard to find, the ones that you can find are well above MSRP. While the 6800XTs can be found for $500 USD. So while 3080 is faster in Raster and faster in Ray Tracing and DLSS is leagues better than FSR, the price gap is hard to justify.

Besides the price gap, you also have the new, Nvidia invented negative, the fact that they've locked the latest DLSS/fake frames behind the 4000 series, meaning the 3000 series has one less DLSS, but still a high price to pay for one.

See this doesn't create a good look later on, when you invent slightly new tech that stems from already existing and in use tech, then leave the prev card out in the cold.

Imagine AMD making FSR, then by FSR 3.0, they leave their last gen card behind, it wouldn't be a good look.

Well I wouldn't count the chickens before they hatch just yet as AMD hasn't said whether or not FSR 3 will be coming to their previous gen gpus. They said they are trying to make it happen but hasn't actually said if it will or what issues it will have if it does. Plus considering DLSS 2 is better to significantly better than FSR 2 in every area and AMD doesn't have an alternative to Reflex to take the latency down without reducing image quality, even if FSR 3 is available on older GPUs, it could be something you may not want to use similar to how using FSR 2 at 1440p is horrid compared to using DLSS 2.

But yea, DLSS 3 not coming to Ampere/Turing is pretty lame but I think the reasoning behind it makes sense because while DLSS 3 does give you a framerate "boost," it comes at a big latency hit even on a 4090. So if Ampere/Turing isn't able to calculate the added frames fast enough or they don't look as good as they should, then it's basically pointless.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 18 April 2023

                  

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Conina said:
Mummelmann said:

So, I did it. I had to. I ordered the stuff last night, my Windows is nagging, my fans are whining, and my games are stuttering. It has served me for nearly 8 years, but is now headed for retirement. Here's my new best friend;

ASUS PRIME X670E-PRO
7800X3D and its buddy, a Phanteks Glacier One 360MP
ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 4090 OC
Kingston Fury Beast DDR-5 6000MHz 64GB
Corsair RMe 1000e PSU (some margins here, for possible future upgrades)
Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2TB (7300/7000)
Kingston KC3000 M.2 2TB (7000/7000)
Phanteks Eclipse G500A tower (just rolling with the standard fans, 3x140mm should be plenty along with the Glacier One)

The 7800X3D is the only component not currently in stock, might take 2 weeks or so, so I'll have to wait a bit longer. Got a decent deal on it all as well, about 10% off through an old aquintance of mine.

Now my biggest concern is this; what the hell should I get as a new display?! I want something larger than what I have (been on 32" since 2015), and 4K of course. No Superwide or Ultrawide, I really don't like those. I'm making a shortlist, the display will be 95% for gaming. The market doesn't seem to be swimming with options, to be honest. And I won'd be shelling out 2000$ on the monitor alone, not with what I already spent.

Good question. I also ordered an ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 4090 (non-OC) a few days ago and I'm thinking about getting a 4K display for it.

Oh! I missed your post yesterday. Congratulations for your new GPU.

Captain_Yuri said:

ASUS ROG Ally gaming console to feature AMD Ryzen 7 7840U Zen4/RDNA3 APU

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-gaming-console-to-feature-amd-ryzen-7-7840u-zen4-rdna3-apu

So 8 cores 16 threads + 780M GPU

NVIDIA Can Counter AMD With GeForce RTX 40 GPU Price Cuts At Any Time But In No Hurry

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-counter-amd-with-geforce-rtx-40-gpu-price-cuts-at-any-time-but-in-no-hurry/

Overclocked Intel Sapphire Rapids Xeon Workstation CPUs Paired With NVIDIA RTX 4090 Require Up To 2000W Power

https://wccftech.com/overclocked-intel-sapphire-rapids-xeon-workstation-cpus-paired-with-nvidia-rtx-4090-require-up-to-2000w-power/

The Ally could be a beast of a machine, but we'll see how Asus prices it.

Of course Nvidia isn't in a hurry to lower prices. They'll only consider that if sales beyond the launch period fall behind their expectations, and that's only if AMD manages to release something new that stirs competition, not lowering the price of old parts.

As for the last bit, yeah, it's an insane amount of power, but who the F would overclock a workstation CPU?



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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By the way, we have the first rumors about the price of the 4060Ti:

NVIDIA to Target $450 Price-point with GeForce RTX 4060 Ti
https://www.techpowerup.com/307412/nvidia-to-target-usd-450-price-point-with-geforce-rtx-4060-ti
original source: Red Gaming Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsiV-9Z-MFU
NVIDIA is preparing its fifth GeForce RTX 40-series "Ada" graphics card launch in May 2023, with the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti. Red Gaming Tech reports that the company could target the USD $450 price-point with this SKU, putting it $150 below the recently launched RTX 4070, and $350 below the RTX 4070 Ti.

That would make it $50 more expensive than the launch price of the 3060Ti while sporting less cuda cores (rumored 4,352 vs 4864), the same 8GB of memory but faster, 18Gbps GDDR6 instead of 14Gbps, and offering a performance jump that would put it, at best, close to the 3070Ti.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

If it had more vram, wouldn't have been too bad but 8gb of vram in 2023 for $450 is too much.



                  

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