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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070, RTX 4060, RTX 4050 Mainstream Laptop GPUs Tested, Small Performance Gains But Higher Efficiency

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-rtx-4050-mainstream-laptop-gpus-tested-small-performance-gains-but-higher-efficiency/

So essentially, it's one class up vs last year. 4070 performs around 3070 Ti, 4060 performs around 3070. 4050 is a touch below a 3060. The biggest issue is the price as the Ampere based laptops are on huge discounts right now. As Jarrod video that's in the article, a 3070 Ti laptop costs $1400 while a 4070 laptop can be had for $2000 while providing effectively no gen on gen upgrades. The efficiency is the only thing that's really note worthy as with Jarrods video, in the article, he showed a 4070 at 65 watts matching a 3070 Ti at 80 watts. But as you increase the power, they both end up at similar performance at the top end.

AMD Radeon RX 7900 and NVIDIA GeForce 40 GPUs are slowly getting cheaper in Europe

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-and-nvidia-geforce-40-gpus-are-slowly-getting-cheaper-in-europe

AMD Ryzen 7000 integrated RDNA2 GPU overclocked to 3.1 GHz, up to 42% performance increase

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-integrated-rdna2-gpu-overclocked-to-3-1-ghz-up-to-42-performance-increase

Impressive overall

AMD “Dragon Range” Ryzen 7745/7645HX officially compared to Intel 12th Gen Core series

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-dragon-range-ryzen-7745-7645hx-officially-compared-to-intel-12th-gen-core-series

Take it with a grain of salt since marketing slides from AMD

Motherboard Vendors Roll Out AGESA 1.0.0.5 BIOS Firmware, Support For AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs

https://wccftech.com/motherboard-vendors-roll-out-agesa-1-0-0-5-bios-firmware-support-for-amd-ryzen-7000-x3d-cpus/

Intel Defers 3 nm Wafer Orders with TSMC, Pushes "Arrow Lake" Rollout to 2025?

https://www.techpowerup.com/305027/intel-defers-3-nm-wafer-orders-with-tsmc-pushes-arrow-lake-rollout-to-2025

They should rename their company to Delaytel



                  

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Bofferbrauer2 said:

It should beat at least the 3060Ti. I'm sure it will do so in 1080p, but I fear the 3060Ti will creep closer and closer the higher the resolution gets unless it's 6GB VRAM buffer runs out beforehand. And in games where 8GB are not enough, the 12GB of the 3060 could actually end up more important than the extra horsepower.

The AD107 of the 4060 is fundamentally a mobile GPU, being also used on the mobile 4060 and 4050. This also brings me to the one great quality of the card: the very low power draw for this day and age of just 115W TGP, which is great to see. You have to go back all the way to 2009 to the GeForce 9600 GT to find a xx6x card with a lower TDP (95W), though the 1660, 1060 and 960 are very close with their 120W TDP.

I wish the browser test had also included Opera, as the latter also includes it's own set of security features.

3060/ti has 8 GB of VRAM, same as 2060S. NVIDIA is not providing much upgrade for the 1080p gaming class this generation. Efficiency is not that important at below 200W GPUs. A bit of power limit and undervolting is getting you good efficiency already. A breakthrough in ray tracing performance (3x up) would have been nice.





                  

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numberwang said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

It should beat at least the 3060Ti. I'm sure it will do so in 1080p, but I fear the 3060Ti will creep closer and closer the higher the resolution gets unless it's 6GB VRAM buffer runs out beforehand. And in games where 8GB are not enough, the 12GB of the 3060 could actually end up more important than the extra horsepower.

The AD107 of the 4060 is fundamentally a mobile GPU, being also used on the mobile 4060 and 4050. This also brings me to the one great quality of the card: the very low power draw for this day and age of just 115W TGP, which is great to see. You have to go back all the way to 2009 to the GeForce 9600 GT to find a xx6x card with a lower TDP (95W), though the 1660, 1060 and 960 are very close with their 120W TDP.

I wish the browser test had also included Opera, as the latter also includes it's own set of security features.

3060/ti has 8 GB of VRAM, same as 2060S. NVIDIA is not providing much upgrade for the 1080p gaming class this generation. Efficiency is not that important at below 200W GPUs. A bit of power limit and undervolting is getting you good efficiency already. A breakthrough in ray tracing performance (3x up) would have been nice.

I sorry to say that Nvidia's marketing team has deceived you. There are three (main) RTX 3060 cards out there.

The first 3060 we got was the 3060Ti, and it had 8GB of VRAM (full specs here), followed shortly after by the vanilla 3060 that has 12GB of VRAM (specs here). Yes, the lower-end card had more memory than the faster one. But it gets worse...

Late last year, maybe because Nvidia decided that repurposing faulty 3060 chips into 3050 cards wasn't profitable enough, they decided to launch a third RTX 3060 card (specs here), but with 8GB of memory and worse performance than the vanilla 3060 12GB one.



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Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Radeon RX 7900 and NVIDIA GeForce 40 GPUs are slowly getting cheaper in Europe

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-and-nvidia-geforce-40-gpus-are-slowly-getting-cheaper-in-europe

It's curious how only 4 AMD cards are still above MSRP, but only 3 Nvidia cards are below MSRP.

And, also mentioned in the article, it's depressing to have confirmation of how much have GPU prices risen in the last three years. They've doubled in price.

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000 integrated RDNA2 GPU overclocked to 3.1 GHz, up to 42% performance increase

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-integrated-rdna2-gpu-overclocked-to-3-1-ghz-up-to-42-performance-increase

Impressive overall

Impressive? Yes. Useless? Also yes. Going from 12 to 17fps in Tomb Raider or from 12 to 15 in FF XV doesn't help you in any way.



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JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Radeon RX 7900 and NVIDIA GeForce 40 GPUs are slowly getting cheaper in Europe

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7900-and-nvidia-geforce-40-gpus-are-slowly-getting-cheaper-in-europe

It's curious how only 4 AMD cards are still above MSRP, but only 3 Nvidia cards are below MSRP.

And, also mentioned in the article, it's depressing to have confirmation of how much have GPU prices risen in the last three years. They've doubled in price.

 
 

Hopefully the great equalizer will save the pc hardware market. With GPU sales and PC sales in general tanking hard, I don't think neither Nvidia or AMD will be able to keep their current prices for very long. 4090 perhaps but the 4080 prices and below will either see big discounts or more likely, Nvidia will release something like a 4070 Super that will perform similar to a 4080 but closer to $800.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

It's curious how only 4 AMD cards are still above MSRP, but only 3 Nvidia cards are below MSRP.

And, also mentioned in the article, it's depressing to have confirmation of how much have GPU prices risen in the last three years. They've doubled in price.

Hopefully the great equalizer will save the pc hardware market. With GPU sales and PC sales in general tanking hard, I don't think neither Nvidia or AMD will be able to keep their current prices for very long. 4090 perhaps but the 4080 prices and below will either see big discounts or more likely, Nvidia will release something like a 4070 Super that will perform similar to a 4080 but closer to $800.

Even if something like a 4070 Super or Ti (*edit* I'm f*cking dumb) happens, it won't be for another year or so, and who knows what will happen during that time.

What Nvidia and AMD should do is releasing the rest of their cards at reasonable prices, not the rumored ones (at least for the 4070 and 4060Ti) and, after seeing how the 4070Ti sold so well, I have my doubts that idea will even cross their minds.

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If the data centers aren't too far away... Might be the cheapest way to game on a 4080 if you want to play MS first party games.



                  

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Looks like NVidia retries the stunt they wanted to pull with the 4080, but now with the 4070:

https://www.techradar.com/news/rtx-4070-leak-suggests-that-nvidia-has-learned-nothing-from-the-rtx-4080-mess

Not just 2, but now 3 different 4070 models, with 16GB, 12GB and 10GB VRAM, and probably different amounts of Cuda cores to match, just like what NVidia tried to pull with the 4080 12GB. In fact, I have the distinct feeling like the 16GB model was originally supposed to become the 4070Ti, but had to pull it down half a tier after the 4080 12GB became the 4070Ti...



Captain_Yuri said:

Literally that one jackass on the Steam forums. There is always that one guy, THAT ONE GUY, that has to come into an issues or glitch/perf thread on Steam and mutter "Don't have any problems on my end, it runs buttery smoooth".

I remember Total Biscuit calling out that type of guy yrs ago, citing them as people who see the problem/issue, but claim it doesn't affect them, so it's not affecting the game/anyone else, thus the game is "perfect". They are pretty much problematic people and they don't even realise it. 



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