Em... not to be *that* guy but Nvidia actually trried to do something about it. They're the ones that developed LHR to try to push miners away from their cards, and brought to the market Turing based cards just for miners, all while AMD did nothing at all.

I say this because it's not Nvidia's fault you're talking about but the greed of most, if not all (I really should have made a list of all the ones that got caught doing it), the AIB partners that were the ones that went for miners of internet cafes and sold them directly the cards instead than to us, gamers. They are the ones that brought us here, not Nvidia.

With that said, what Nvidia, and also AMD, should do now is to cut the MSRP, because it's been two years and the remaining cards wont sell unless they drop in price, and a lot.

True. I hope so, this generation was unfortunately a write off for a lot of people so if the next cards are somewhat less performant in that regard it'll be interesting to see if it does make an impact should when the next mining boom hits. There's already reports of huge resales in China for GPU's but I wonder if its really a good idea. I guess a lot have already made their cash already. I can see Ampere cards being sought off after, just like the previous AMD cards due to their high  MH/s for cost. So your 3080 could prove to be a good resale either way even years down the line.

For memory I'd say its the logical move. GDDR6X modules are expensive and power hungry. And with switching to G6+adding more L2 will allow them to put their power budget on the total TGP.

I'm with you. They were getting huge amounts of revenue on overinflated prices. Mostly from miners willing to fork out cash to gain more money. And others that fell prey to paying up for heavily overpriced silicon due to unmitigated circumstances and Nvidia rolled in it. Same with AMD.

They took the easy money and it bit them right back. When a large bulk of your consumer base loses interest in graphics cards due to silly costs and lack of availability for so long, its kinda like good. Fuck them.  On the other hand, we're both in dire need of an upgrade so... going to have to bite the bullet either way. Get a RTX 4000 series card.. failing that a bargain bin Ampere card.

I was mostly on about how crappy they treated a lot of customers this generation. That LHR thing didn't do much other than to stop the little guys earning some money on side with mining. While they and their partners were selling pallet loads to huge mining farms. Both AMD and Nvidia were shitty this gen as far as I'm concerned with over-inflating prices, silly pointless releases and milking an already poor situation.

No sympathy from me, AiBs, AMD and Nvidia can suck it after this generation.

I understand that you're pissed by how things have gone this gen but, again, Nvidia didn't sell "pallet loads to huge mining farms", that was all AIB partners and stores. And it is/was also them that raised the prices because they knew miners would still buy them anyway. Neither Nvidia, nor AMD, made more money because of the higher price of the cards. They only took profit from the higher volume of GPUs sold and, as I said, at least Nvidia tried to do something that would have harmed that extra volume.

LHR didn't target the little guy but everybody, and it's not like the ridiculous price of Ethereum, that made even the reduced hash-rate worth it, was Nvidia's fault, right?

But well, if you're so fed up with Nvidia, AMD and the AIBs, you can always go and buy an Intel card, whenever those launch .

Not sure why you keep focusing on the mining part or picking holes in what I say but it is what it is. Nvidia heavily inflated prices due to unprecedented demand and now they are sitting on shelves after the crypto collapse and loss of interest from people who are holding out or don't care for games and were in it for fomo.

Nah its just a figure of speech though tbh I'm good have a lot of games already and consoles, Deck and backlog to catch up on. Not too fussed if I can't get a new GPU any time soon. Though would really like one, this year :P

Not sure if this was posted already but more Zen3D CPU's supposedly incoming (from Greymon55). Lower end AM4 parts as well.

It's been rumored in the last few days that there will be several new products for ZEN3D. It's true, and there will be further information next month.

— Greymon55 (@greymon55) June 28, 2022

Would be interesting to see a lower and higher tier Zen3D CPU's fair.. say something like the 5600X3D or 5900X3D.

I'll be interested to see how Zen 4 X3D performs in gaming because from official numbers, the vanilla Zen 4 sounds like a huge disappointment so far, especially considering how much they are asking you to invest. If Zen 4X3D can match Raptor Lake and comes out shortly after Zen 4, then it might be a good idea to wait for it as then, it may be worth upgrading to instead of Vanilla Zen 4.

But I personally won't be upgrading for a few years other than the GPU.

True the investment in Zen 4 is quite high, I'm guessing its why they're planning to keep AM4 alive for some time even after AM5 is out. Curious to see if fast clocks and DDR5 among other improvements grants you big benefits in over Zen 3 X3D. They have to be faster than Alderlake though with those big clocks and some IPC gains, and with 3D stacked cache. Will be a interesting fight to see next year.. there are already engineering samples out in the wild for i9 13900K in China; that brings in an alleged 20% uplift over ADL in games and apps.

Yeah probably a good idea to wait (esp. for people interesting in gaming uplift) because since DDR5 is gaining momentum and is gradually getting cheaper and better for the money. And you ride out the first wave of motherboards.

And same, current Zen 3's are still fast as heck and honestly doesn't seem to be worth the upgrade just yet. And can't see them being a bottleneck any time soon.

The 6800U handhelds are starting to show up for reviews/previews

Essentially if you take the Steam Deck and crank the settings up to high or keep the same settings , up the resolution to 1080p and double the framerate, you will get the 6800U's performance at 28 watts. For some games, you can do both. And you get the benefits of running Windows with essentially universal compatibility with all your games.

But of course, the key difference is the price as most of these handhelds will cost double the 512GB version at a starting price. On top of that, you will have a hard time dealing with any Quality Control issues where as with the Steam Deck, you can just send it back. While the performance and functionality is great, it is a hard plunge to take.

For the GPD Win Max 2, they haven't given out the 6800U version yet to the reviewers but you can see the review of the Intel version

Ubisoft ending classic Assassin’s Creed, Splinter Cell support
https://www.pcgamesn.com/assassins-creed-multiplayer-end
Get your last round of original Assassin’s Creed multiplayer in, because it’ll be removed in September 2022. Ubisoft confirms it is ending online support for many of its old games, including many of its classic Assassin’s Creed games, Far Cry 3, and the final Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell games – shutting off access to multiplayer and even DLC.

List of affected games:

• Anno 2070
• Assassin’s Creed II
• Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood
• Assassin’s Creed Liberation HD
• Assassin’s Creed III (original release)
• Driver San Francisco
• Far Cry 3 (original release)
• Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
• Silent Hunter 5
• Space Junkies
• Splinter Cell: Blacklist

Most of those games are quite old already, (I'm quite certain that Silent Hunter V launched 10 years ago if not more, same as the Ezio AC games.

I don't think many will complain.