Correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't reviewers test Alder Lake both with DDR4 and DDR5 and found the difference in games to be quite small? Unless I'm missing something, I don't think the use of DDR4 on this review has much of an impact in the overall results.

But I agree that the performance increase is remarkable, specially with the 1% lows.

Intel may have to lower the price of the 12900KS.

It depends on the game. Some games you see a massive jump while others, not so much. Some even hate the additional latency DDR5 gives you:

https://www.techspot.com/review/2387-ddr4-vs-ddr5/

I hadn't seen that one. Thank you.

Alright bois, here's a real review of the 5800X3D:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/15.html

And this is what I meant by DDR5 mattering. Still, it's hard to deny how incredible Zen 3 really is. It's able to keep up with Intel's latest and greatest just by adding in more cache 2 years later. Sure the Intel one is slightly faster in average but the expense of DDR5 will be better served by getting a stronger GPU. And those that are upgrading with a 300 series motherboard will have one fap worthy experience!

If I was Intel and I looked at some of the benchmarks, I'd be having nightmares about Zen 4. Alder Lake S with all of it's DDR5 6000, PCI-E Gen 5 and a completely new Arch getting steamrolled in some benches by a 2 year old Zen 3 with more cache is insane!

And that's not the only one either.

I thought reviews would come Thursday? In any case, very strong performance (in games, of course).

They are but some websites have been able to buy the CPU from retailers who shipped them early so they can review the units they got from retailers as those aren't under embargo technically.

I see. For a chip that, according to some rumors, would be available in low quantities, looks like several sites managed to get one.

GPU's being readily available.. it looks like its hitting Nvidia a bit.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nvidia-stock-stumbles-after-baird-voices-concern-about-graphics-business-11649703415

Let these 2 year old cards rot on the shelf at over MSRP prices.. these things should be going for a lot less - and to actual consumers, not miners.

It is looking better for those those who want a new graphics card now or in the near future, though the next hurdle is when Lovelace/RDNA 3 cards are out.

Crazy gains just from upping the L3 cache on a single-CCX. Do want, but not at full price. only a 8% gain at 1440P (on average from the 5600X) though on certain games like FC 5, there is an insane jump in performance. At 4K GPU bottlenecks come into play and there's no difference in more recent mid/top tier CPU's. The embargo releases soon so it'll be interesting to see results on higher tier GPU's like the 3090/6900XT, which is where next gen's mid gen cards should be at or better.

But yeah this is impressive for Zen 3. Zen 4 with a sizable jump in IPC and modest boost in clocks.. is going to be blood bath lol.