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Instruction Sets: Alder Lake Dumps AVX-512 in a BIG Way

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16881/a-deep-dive-into-intels-alder-lake-microarchitectures/5

This is pretty ironic. AVX 512 was one of the "selling" points of Rocket Lake but a weak one at that but the funny thing is, Zen 4 will have AVX 512. So you are in a situation where Intel no longer cares about AVX 512 in their consumer chips but AMD does. For HEDT line and Server, those may still support it however but not sure yet.


Intel 600-Series Chipsets Leak Out In Latest Drivers – X699 For HEDT, Z690 For Mainstream, W680 For Workstation & More

https://wccftech.com/intel-600-series-chipsets-leak-out-in-latest-drivers-x699-hedt-z690-mainstream-w680-workstation/


AMD RDNA 4 ‘Radeon RX 8000’ GPUs Rumored To Utilize 3nm & 5nm Process Nodes

https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-4-radeon-rx-8000-gpu-rumored-to-utilize-3nm-5nm-process-nodes/


Nvidia admits acquisition of British chip designer Arm may take longer than 18 months

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/19/22632017/nvidia-acquisition-arm-timeframe-18-months-schedule-regulatory-scrutiny

Sounds like it may not go through which is a good thing for the industry. But we will see.

Black Myth: WuKong 12 Minutes UE5 Gameplay Test

One of the more graphically impressive games I have seen. It also Supports 4K, 60FPS, Ray Tracing and Nvidia DLSS at launch.

https://www.ign.com/articles/black-myth-wukong-unreal-engine-5-4k-60fps-ray-tracing



                  

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Halo Infinite Will Be Missing Campaign Co-op, Forge, and PC Splitscreen at Launch

https://wccftech.com/halo-infinite-no-co-op-forge-pc-splitscreen-at-launch/

Game gets delayed, the graphics look marginally better in my eyes and it's still missing features? Can they fire 343 yet?



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Instruction Sets: Alder Lake Dumps AVX-512 in a BIG Way

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16881/a-deep-dive-into-intels-alder-lake-microarchitectures/5

This is pretty ironic. AVX 512 was one of the "selling" points of Rocket Lake but a weak one at that but the funny thing is, Zen 4 will have AVX 512. So you are in a situation where Intel no longer cares about AVX 512 in their consumer chips but AMD does. For HEDT line and Server, those may still support it however but not sure yet.

100% intel going to support AVX 512 on Sapphire Rapid.  There no other reason why Golden Core would have AVX-512 on it.  Why make a core with AVX-512 if you not going to support it on anything.  

The question is will AMD support AVX512 on Ryzen or will they disable it on ZEN 4 just like intel disabling it on Golden Cove for Alder Lake.



Cyran said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Instruction Sets: Alder Lake Dumps AVX-512 in a BIG Way

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16881/a-deep-dive-into-intels-alder-lake-microarchitectures/5

This is pretty ironic. AVX 512 was one of the "selling" points of Rocket Lake but a weak one at that but the funny thing is, Zen 4 will have AVX 512. So you are in a situation where Intel no longer cares about AVX 512 in their consumer chips but AMD does. For HEDT line and Server, those may still support it however but not sure yet.

100% intel going to support AVX 512 on Sapphire Rapid.  There no other reason why Golden Core would have AVX-512 on it.  Why make a core with AVX-512 if you not going to support it on anything.  

The question is will AMD support AVX512 on Ryzen or will they disable it on ZEN 4 just like intel disabling it on Golden Cove for Alder Lake.

I'd be surprised if AMD disables it in Zen 4 as that would be a pretty easy selling point even if many consumers may not get much use out of it.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
Cyran said:

100% intel going to support AVX 512 on Sapphire Rapid.  There no other reason why Golden Core would have AVX-512 on it.  Why make a core with AVX-512 if you not going to support it on anything.  

The question is will AMD support AVX512 on Ryzen or will they disable it on ZEN 4 just like intel disabling it on Golden Cove for Alder Lake.

I'd be surprised if AMD disables it in Zen 4 as that would be a pretty easy selling point even if many consumers may not get much use out of it.

Because if you going to let people run AVX-512 you also going to have to support the power consumption and heat it requires.  Good article by AnandTech on just how much more power is require when running AVX-512 work loads

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16495/intel-rocket-lake-14nm-review-11900k-11700k-11600k/5



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Cyran said:
Captain_Yuri said:

I'd be surprised if AMD disables it in Zen 4 as that would be a pretty easy selling point even if many consumers may not get much use out of it.

Because if you going to let people run AVX-512 you also going to have to support the power consumption and heat it requires.  Good article by AnandTech on just how much more power is require when running AVX-512 work loads

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16495/intel-rocket-lake-14nm-review-11900k-11700k-11600k/5

That's true. Zen 4s 16 cores is rumoured to have a TDP of 170 watts while being on TSMC's 5nm which is up from 5950x 105 Watts TDP. If they end up disabling AVX512, then they really need to make sure those big cores are able to beat Raptor Lake handly which should be it's direct competition. Especially as Intel is going DDR5 and PCI-E Gen 5 while Zen 4 is rumoured to have DDR5 but only PCI-E Gen 4.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Halo Infinite Will Be Missing Campaign Co-op, Forge, and PC Splitscreen at Launch

https://wccftech.com/halo-infinite-no-co-op-forge-pc-splitscreen-at-launch/

Game gets delayed, the graphics look marginally better in my eyes and it's still missing features? Can they fire 343 yet?

AAA's looking more and more mismanaged by the year. Like I get indies take their time, but boy, the past 5ish years have seen delay after delay with marginal improvements when it comes to the AAA side.

ppl waited for patch 9.2 for WoW, all they got was nerfed gear and more janky systems (which no one asked for). Then there's Cyberpunk many months later with a Minimap fix. I swear most AAA studios are run only by suits these days. Gone are the days where it was passion and innovation first, now all we're getting are delays and slight incremental improvements, but it ain't worth the wait/asking price if you ask me. 



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Chazore said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Halo Infinite Will Be Missing Campaign Co-op, Forge, and PC Splitscreen at Launch

https://wccftech.com/halo-infinite-no-co-op-forge-pc-splitscreen-at-launch/

Game gets delayed, the graphics look marginally better in my eyes and it's still missing features? Can they fire 343 yet?

AAA's looking more and more mismanaged by the year. Like I get indies take their time, but boy, the past 5ish years have seen delay after delay with marginal improvements when it comes to the AAA side.

ppl waited for patch 9.2 for WoW, all they got was nerfed gear and more janky systems (which no one asked for). Then there's Cyberpunk many months later with a Minimap fix. I swear most AAA studios are run only by suits these days. Gone are the days where it was passion and innovation first, now all we're getting are delays and slight incremental improvements, but it ain't worth the wait/asking price if you ask me. 

Yea it feels like a lot of innovation has gone out the window for a safe and more generic approach for a lot of AAA developers. Instead of aiming for a certain audience, these games are trying to cater to the masses and doing a poor job even at that.

I am still quite annoyed when it came to cyberpunk. It had so much potential from a very well know and beloved developer yet they managed to goof it. I am not an xbox fan but I don't recall people loving 343 to my knowledge and these devs continue to goof it up. MCC's original xbox launch was terrible. Halo 5 was disliked by many and Infinite gameplay reveal last year was a disaster. How many times does 343 need to goof up before MS realizes that 343 isn't worthy of a flagship title like Halo. They should outsource it to someone that actually cares about the franchise instead of giving it to a developer that has repeated proven they don't know what they are doing.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea it feels like a lot of innovation has gone out the window for a safe and more generic approach for a lot of AAA developers. Instead of aiming for a certain audience, these games are trying to cater to the masses and doing a poor job even at that.

I am still quite annoyed when it came to cyberpunk. It had so much potential from a very well know and beloved developer yet they managed to goof it. I am not an xbox fan but I don't recall people loving 343 to my knowledge and these devs continue to goof it up. MCC's original xbox launch was terrible. Halo 5 was disliked by many and Infinite gameplay reveal last year was a disaster. How many times does 343 need to goof up before MS realizes that 343 isn't worthy of a flagship title like Halo. They should outsource it to someone that actually cares about the franchise instead of giving it to a developer that has repeated proven they don't know what they are doing.

I'm double annoyed by 2077, mainly because they fucked up big time and still answer primarily to investors, despite all the shit that hit the fan. The other is the insane, brain-washed fanboys over on the Steam forums, who do nothing but post defensively time and time again (seriously, check some of their post history and it's only them spending time in 2077 Steam forums 24/7), and I know that 2077 at this point is well beyond salvation, but those fanboys seem to think it's perfect already...

I don't think 343 ever reached that level of love that Bungie got, not since they decided to stick their dick into already established lore, while trying to "add" to it and retcon a few things (not very fond of retcons for nearly any story tbh). I'm still miffed that MCC is still somehow stuck at 60fps, for an FPS game that's a sin in today's age.

I really think some of these big companies need to hire actual people that care about the games, the lore and what's actually fun and feature complete, instead of "yeah this looks good to ship, toss some extra MT's on top of it!". I wouldn't say hire some fans (even though that worked well for Sonic Mania), because some can get a bit high on the ego trip or self insert themselves/put too much focus on certain characters over others (looking at you Sylvanas fans).



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zero129 said:

Wow guys dont take Halo too much to heart. True co op missing from the get go is a bit off but really if the is enough game in the single player who is really going to care?, out of everyone who plays halo who goes co op first??. As for Cyberpunk lets just hope they pull a No mans sky ya know?. Everyone thought that game was done and finished yet look at it now?.

wdym coop is the only way i beat legendary



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