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If you like hardware mods, Coolermaster has announced the winners of its Case Mod World Series 2020. Check out the link for the winners as well a galleries of the different entries

https://community.coolermaster.com/cmws/

And here you can see the winners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqEU4egJ4A



Please excuse my bad English.

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Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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Captain_Yuri said:

After Windows 10?, haha fuck no I don't trust. 



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

I bought gamestop stock to hopefully make enough money to afford a 3080ti.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

Better watch that stock like a hawk cause it's real evaluation is no where near it's meme evaluation



                  

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Some of the Rocket lake chips got delidded already, and it reveals why Rocket lake has only 8 cores.

Comet lake, having 10 cores, clocks in at 206mm². Rocket Lake, on the other hand, despite having 2 less cores, clocks in at 292mm². For comparison, the upcoming Cezanne Zen 3 APUs with 8 cores and 8 CU are with 180mm² just 60% the size of a Rocket lake die, Renoir with it's 156mm² was even just half the size of Rocket Lake.

This also explains why they reduced the size if the iGPU to only 32 EU, otherwise the chip would probably have ended up being bigger than even the old Skylake SP LCC chips, which clock in at 322mm² due to it's large caches but which could also be sold at much higher prices due to being a server chip.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 13 March 2021

Hardware Unboxed made a quite interesting video about the state of the supply and prices of both GPU and CPU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh_GDvNABJA

Bottom line:

  1. They don't really know who's the culprit on increasing the prices as everybody blames everybody. In the chat however it seems the blame goes unanimously to distributors who massively overcharge and bundle some crap with the cards (like 10 crappy PSU for $150 each if you want to buy a 3080, for instance).
  2. Prices thankfully seem to plateau, with a potential  of going down very slightly over the next weeks.
  3. Don't expect 3080,3060Ti or any 6800 to get better supplies anytime soon as NVidia and AMD are delivering the more valuable 3090, 3070 and 6900XT first.
  4. On the CPU side, Comet Lake is widely available while the 5800X and 3600X are also mostly available by now.
  5. The 5900X and 5950X on the other hand are hard to get as their chips are getting binned for the much more lucrative EPYC server chips. Those won't get good availability before a couple of months, especially not the 5900X.

Next episode will be interesting to see if there's much change - and how the situation will be for the 6700XT and Rocket Lake.



Bofferbrauer2 said:

Some of the Rocket lake chips got delidded already, and it reveals why Rocket lake has only 8 cores.

Comet lake, having 10 cores, clocks in at 206mm². Rocket Lake, on the other hand, despite having 2 less cores, clocks in at 292mm². For comparison, the upcoming Cezanne Zen 3 APUs with 8 cores and 8 CU are with 180mm² just 60% the size of a Rocket lake die, Renoir with it's 156mm² was even just half the size of Rocket Lake.

This also explains why they reduced the size if the iGPU to only 32 EU, otherwise the chip would probably have ended up being bigger than even the old Skylake SP LCC chips, which clock in at 322mm² due to it's large caches but which could also be sold at much higher prices due to being a server chip.

Probably would have been better sticking with Skylake and throwing a big chunk of eDRAM at the problem.




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That's the problem of still sticking to 14nm. At least it looks like this will be the last time, finally!



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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Pemalite said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Some of the Rocket lake chips got delidded already, and it reveals why Rocket lake has only 8 cores.

Comet lake, having 10 cores, clocks in at 206mm². Rocket Lake, on the other hand, despite having 2 less cores, clocks in at 292mm². For comparison, the upcoming Cezanne Zen 3 APUs with 8 cores and 8 CU are with 180mm² just 60% the size of a Rocket lake die, Renoir with it's 156mm² was even just half the size of Rocket Lake.

This also explains why they reduced the size if the iGPU to only 32 EU, otherwise the chip would probably have ended up being bigger than even the old Skylake SP LCC chips, which clock in at 322mm² due to it's large caches but which could also be sold at much higher prices due to being a server chip.

Probably would have been better sticking with Skylake and throwing a big chunk of eDRAM at the problem.

I had a similar idea, just increase the size of the L2/L3 caches and Rocket Lake would probably have been beaten with less.