Considering how much I underestimated AMD's cards Intel must have a real beast there.

I wouldn't rule them out yet. They've hired the right people (and Raja) to make a good graphics card and have the money to make it as well. We'll see if the rumors pointing to Xe being on par with the 3070 are true or not, and at what price it launches.

And then driver support, of course.

I still find it hard to understand why did AMD drag so long with Vega for their APUs given how big of an improvement is Navi in every aspect.

If Intel manages to go 0-100 and compete against Nvidia/AMD with Raster/Ray Tracing on the high end. I'll change my Sig to Intel Shill for a month.

*Looks at Bot Server and sees 0 stock notifications for 6000 series after the initial 5 seconds*

NVidia's MX series of GPUs at the very least. Tiger Lake already is in the ballpark of an MX 350 (which is basically a rebadged 1050) and if the Zen3 APUs can get faster memory than just DDR4 3200 (like LPDDR4X 4666 or some implementation of the Infinity Cache), then it will beat that GPU too, and get close to the MX 450 (which is actually faster than the then-very-popular 1050Ti).

Solid effort from AMD, great raster performance, but with much worse RT performance and no DLSS, it eventually comes down to price...which is quite good.

A DLSS equivalent is in works, but wasn't ready for launch. We'll have to see then how it performs, if it can keep up with today's DLSS or look like it did at release.

Oh come on guys, nobody here actually believes AMD will have something even close to DLSS in the works, do you? There is a huge difference between image sharpening guesswork and DL algorithms. Or maybe someone can show me those hidden Tensor cores in RDNA2.

AMD will have "something", but it won't be DLSS. At least not in this generation.

Of course it won't be DLSS, because that's Nvidia only. AMD will use Microsoft's DirectML to try to get similar results. And since that will help MSoft with their console, they'll try to get it working as soon as possible.

I'm not really expecting it to be anywhere on par with DLSS, and the technique employed is different. I'm just saying that AMD is working on it's own equivalent and that we have no idea how good (as in, DLSS right now) or bad (as in, DLSS at release) it will be.