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You guys are too focused on the present to see the possibilities of a 3080Ti card.

First of all, the 3090 is the new Titan. They're not intended as gaming cards but aim for the prosumer market, with the option to play games when not working. The best indication of that is that the 3090 runs slower than a 3080, albeit not by much.

Now, imagine what a 3080Ti could look like: fabbed using TSMC's 7nm process, allowing it to run at 200-300MHz frequencies with the same power consumption, with the extra hardware and 12GB of VRAM. You get a card that will easily be at least 10-15% faster while still leaving the 3090 the memory capacity advantage.



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Urghh my 3900x can't keep up with my 3090 at 3440 x 1440p in Call of Duty Modern Warfare. Time to buy 5900X?



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

You're getting too attached to that 3090. You'll end keepimg it and returning the 3080 .



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Nah I am gonna return it one way or another cause of the broken fan. Just a matter of whether or not I want to hit the return button or replace button loll

I'll see how Big Navi does tomorrow. I hope AMD brings it!



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

I'd wait until proper reviews, but if we have to wait almost a month for the CPU ones, I don't know how much more we'll have to wait to get the ones for their GPUs.



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Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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JEMC said:

You guys are too focused on the present to see the possibilities of a 3080Ti card.

First of all, the 3090 is the new Titan. They're not intended as gaming cards but aim for the prosumer market, with the option to play games when not working. The best indication of that is that the 3090 runs slower than a 3080, albeit not by much.

Now, imagine what a 3080Ti could look like: fabbed using TSMC's 7nm process, allowing it to run at 200-300MHz frequencies with the same power consumption, with the extra hardware and 12GB of VRAM. You get a card that will easily be at least 10-15% faster while still leaving the 3090 the memory capacity advantage.

Sure, they could leave the 3090 with a large memory advantage, but depending on the memory on Big Navi it could still leave some to be desired if they come up short. I'm just hoping for a proper improvement over a standard 3080, like the one I saw on the 980 and 980Ti, I've more or less decided to go with a 3080Ti, whatever it might be since it's likely to serve my purpose best.



Mummelmann said:
JEMC said:

You guys are too focused on the present to see the possibilities of a 3080Ti card.

First of all, the 3090 is the new Titan. They're not intended as gaming cards but aim for the prosumer market, with the option to play games when not working. The best indication of that is that the 3090 runs slower than a 3080, albeit not by much.

Now, imagine what a 3080Ti could look like: fabbed using TSMC's 7nm process, allowing it to run at 200-300MHz frequencies with the same power consumption, with the extra hardware and 12GB of VRAM. You get a card that will easily be at least 10-15% faster while still leaving the 3090 the memory capacity advantage.

Sure, they could leave the 3090 with a large memory advantage, but depending on the memory on Big Navi it could still leave some to be desired if they come up short. I'm just hoping for a proper improvement over a standard 3080, like the one I saw on the 980 and 980Ti, I've more or less decided to go with a 3080Ti, whatever it might be since it's likely to serve my purpose best.

We still have to see if AMD's big cache will make up for the lower memory bandwidth because, if it doesn't, the extra GB won't matter all that much.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

JEMC said:
Mummelmann said:

Sure, they could leave the 3090 with a large memory advantage, but depending on the memory on Big Navi it could still leave some to be desired if they come up short. I'm just hoping for a proper improvement over a standard 3080, like the one I saw on the 980 and 980Ti, I've more or less decided to go with a 3080Ti, whatever it might be since it's likely to serve my purpose best.

We still have to see if AMD's big cache will make up for the lower memory bandwidth because, if it doesn't, the extra GB won't matter all that much.

That's true. And AMD are still known for having more driver issues as well. Can't wait for tomorrow, the rumors are getting out of hand.



Mummelmann said:
JEMC said:

We still have to see if AMD's big cache will make up for the lower memory bandwidth because, if it doesn't, the extra GB won't matter all that much.

That's true. And AMD are still known for having more driver issues as well. Can't wait for tomorrow, the rumors are getting out of hand.

Tomorrow can end with AMD being a hero, with a product that competes head to head (or almost) with Nvidia's counterparts... or as a villain for letting us all down. Once again.

I hope it's the former, we also need proper competition in the GPU market.



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Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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By the way, for those that are interested in those things, AMD has revealed its Q3 2020 results:

AMD Reports Q3 2020 Earnings: Making Money and Settings Records Yet Again
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16198/amd-reports-q3-2020-earnings-making-money-and-settings-records-yet-again
For the third quarter of 2020, AMD reported $2.8B in revenue, a 56% jump over the same quarter a year ago. As a result, AMD has once again set new revenue records for the company, posting both their best Q3 ever, and their best single quarter period. Driving this was further growth in both of AMD’s major segments, with everything from consumer CPU sales to EPYC and semi-custom sales reported as being on the rise.

And they also announced that they've bought Xilinx

AMD in $35 Billion All-Stock Acquisition of Xilinx
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16196/amd-in-35-billion-allstock-acquisition-of-xilinx
After a couple of weeks of rumor, as well as a couple of years of hearsay, AMD has gone feet first into a full acquisition of FPGA manufacturer Xilinx. The deal involves an all-stock transaction, leveraging AMD’s sizeable share price in order to enable an equivalent $143 per Xilinx share – current AMD stockholders will still own 74% of the combined company, while Xilinx stockholders will own 26%. The combined $135 billion entity will total 13000 engineers, and expand AMD’s total addressable market to $110 Billion. It is believed that the key reasons for the acquisition lie in Xilinx’s adaptive computing solutions for the data center market.

It wasn't that long ago that AMD had to sell parts of itself every year to keep afloat. And look at them now, buying a company for $35 billions.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.