Also Microsoft is going to have Xbox Series X's AMD Architecture Deep Dive at Hot Chips 2020 today at 6:30PM or 7 PM PST. It could give some insight into RDNA 2 and AMD's next gen APUs.

They have already gave out some slides on what to expect from the presentation.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-xbox-series-x-architecture-deep-dive

" That GPU section is, not surprisingly, massive. The full chip is 360.4mm square, with 15.3 billion transistors. Doing some quick image analysis, the GPU takes up roughly half of the die (47.5% if you want a more precise estimate)."

"A Zen 2 CPU chiplet measures 74mm square (with four times the L3 cache compared to the Xbox Series X APU), and then tack on a GPU that has more features and shader cores than Navi 10 (RX 5700 XT), which measures 251mm square. That's 325mm square without the enhanced Navi 2x cores and 12 additional CUs."

"While the chip size of the Xbox Series X is in line with previous console hardware (375mm square for the Xbox One in 2013, 367mm square for the Xbox One X in 2017), and transistor counts have more than doubled relative to the Xbox One X (6.6 billion to 15.4 billion), the die cost is higher. Microsoft doesn't specify how much higher, but lists "$" as the cost on the Xbox One and Xbox One S, "$+" for the Xbox One X, and "$++" for the Xbox Series X. As we've noted elsewhere, while TSMC's 7nm lithography is proving potent, the cost per wafer is substantially higher than at 12nm."

NAND prices going down is good for all. hopefully that fall arrives to us, customers.

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I'll wait until someone does a simplified summary so I can understand it. But I've looked something: during the Turing architecture deep dive they did at Anandtech, they mention that the 2080Ti is capable of 10 GigaRays/second (page 7). That slide says that the custom XBX solution can do up to 380 G/sec ray-bos peak or 95G/sec ray-tri peak. I don't know how comparable are both metrics, but this does seem to confirm that Turing won't age well for ray tracing tasks.

There's a lot more slides that goes more in-depth. I think next gen AMD gpus might also be expensive and I am starting to think that DF's rumour about the consoles costing $600 might be a reality...

Yeah, I mean this monolithic die is huge and packing. Granted this is an APU verses the 72-80CU Big Navi, that's gonna be pricey as well. Makes me question whether Series S is going to be $300. Its probably going to be like $400 for Series S and $600 Series X.

Sony probably went to smarter route with smaller APU. Though the cooling on PS5 and SSD is going to add a bit to the BOM.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-xbox-series-x-architecture-deep-dive

" That GPU section is, not surprisingly, massive. The full chip is 360.4mm square, with 15.3 billion transistors. Doing some quick image analysis, the GPU takes up roughly half of the die (47.5% if you want a more precise estimate)."

"A Zen 2 CPU chiplet measures 74mm square (with four times the L3 cache compared to the Xbox Series X APU), and then tack on a GPU that has more features and shader cores than Navi 10 (RX 5700 XT), which measures 251mm square. That's 325mm square without the enhanced Navi 2x cores and 12 additional CUs."

Is it just me or do those sizes don't add up?

360mm², out of which the GPU takes less than 50%, so only ~175mm²? I find that die size hard to believe since Navi is already produced in 7nm, has less CU and no hardware Raytracing yet was already 251mm². If that is truly the size of the GPU part, then they would have needed to severely cut down on the cache sizes inside Navi to make it this small, I don't see what else they even could have cut.

CPU looks like cut out right of Renoir, complete with the cache size.

NAND prices going down is good for all. hopefully that fall arrives to us, customers.

(This one is shorter to quote than the other one.)

I'll wait until someone does a simplified summary so I can understand it. But I've looked something: during the Turing architecture deep dive they did at Anandtech, they mention that the 2080Ti is capable of 10 GigaRays/second (page 7). That slide says that the custom XBX solution can do up to 380 G/sec ray-bos peak or 95G/sec ray-tri peak. I don't know how comparable are both metrics, but this does seem to confirm that Turing won't age well for ray tracing tasks.

RTX 3090 rumored to cost around $2000. Jensen needs more fuel for his Ferrari's.

https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark