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Chazore on 09 January 2019
Pemalite said:
Chazore said:

32 would have been nice, but given how things run for me at DSR 4k, I'd rather the nice looking, neatly cable managed 1440p monitor.

I'd say gimme a ring when we get 4k assets displayed at 4k for everything, while running above 60fps. Until then, 4k just isn't worth much of anything in my eyes. 1440p  has been my current sweet spot over the past 2 yrs now.

1440P is the sweet spot.
It's a step up over 1080P... But it's hardware demands isn't as high as 4k.

Just 1440P, 144hz, 27" has been done to death at this point... The cable management is really what sets this monitor apart... But is that really worth the Razer premium?

That and the monitor itself is different in design. No the size of the monitor is the same, but it's stand and outside shape are different. 

 

The cost itself afak wasn't asking for £700-1000, which some crazy monitor makers can ask for. My Acer Predator 165hz one wasn't cheap as chips for one. 



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haxxiy on 09 January 2019

So, the Radeon 7 GPU! RTX 2080 performance for just about the same price, but some 300 W and that's on 7 nm already on top of all things.

Vega is truly the Bulldozer of GPUs. Maybe Navi will be, I don't know, a Steamroller. Because it's increasingly obvious true evolution will happen only when they move away from GCN at this point, the design simply can't scale above 2000 - 2500 SPs.



 

 

 

 

 

JEMC on 09 January 2019
m0ney said:
JEMC said:

Congrats on your decision and have fun with it.

Thanks. I got a great deal for a hardly used Sapphire RX 580 Pulse for 120 euro. I just installed it and will test GTAV lol

Here is my old card on top and the new at bottom:

Looks good, and for a truly great price.

Again, congratulations on your purchase.

haxxiy said:
So, the Radeon 7 GPU! RTX 2080 performance for just about the same price, but some 300 W and that's on 7 nm already on top of all things.

Vega is truly the Bulldozer of GPUs. Maybe Navi will be, I don't know, a Steamroller. Because it's increasingly obvious true evolution will happen only when they move away from GCN at this point, the design simply can't scale above 2000 - 2500 SPs.

I forgot it was today (I thought we would know about it tomorrow).

The 16GB of HDM2 is a surprise, but that even the reference card comes with 3 fans to cool it down...



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haxxiy on 09 January 2019
JEMC said:
haxxiy said:
So, the Radeon 7 GPU! RTX 2080 performance for just about the same price, but some 300 W and that's on 7 nm already on top of all things.

Vega is truly the Bulldozer of GPUs. Maybe Navi will be, I don't know, a Steamroller. Because it's increasingly obvious true evolution will happen only when they move away from GCN at this point, the design simply can't scale above 2000 - 2500 SPs.

I forgot it was today (I thought we would know about it tomorrow).

The 16GB of HDM2 is a surprise, but that even the reference card comes with 3 fans to cool it down...

I suspected a 2x increase in power efficiency would be too optimistic from 7nm in real-life applications. Bodes ill for the next-generation consoles too.

But RTG always manages to disappoint you, even when you're expecting nothing.



 

 

 

 

 

JEMC on 09 January 2019

And the new CPUs could be really good... and tiny!

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13829/amd-ryzen-3rd-generation-zen-2-pcie-4-eight-core

That's an 8-core, 16-threads CPU on the right next to the I/O die. And as they show, there's room for another chip



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JEMC on 09 January 2019
haxxiy said:
JEMC said:

I forgot it was today (I thought we would know about it tomorrow).

The 16GB of HDM2 is a surprise, but that even the reference card comes with 3 fans to cool it down...

I suspected a 2x increase in power efficiency would be too optimistic from 7nm in real-life applications. Bodes ill for the next-generation consoles too.

But RTG always manages to disappoint you, even when you're expecting nothing.

Consoles will have to go with Navi, otherwise they'll some sort of "exotic" cooling like an AIO unit to keep it under control.



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Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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Pemalite on 09 January 2019
haxxiy said:
So, the Radeon 7 GPU! RTX 2080 performance for just about the same price, but some 300 W and that's on 7 nm already on top of all things.

Vega is truly the Bulldozer of GPUs. Maybe Navi will be, I don't know, a Steamroller. Because it's increasingly obvious true evolution will happen only when they move away from GCN at this point, the design simply can't scale above 2000 - 2500 SPs.

Vega was very unbalanced.
Vega 20 will fix allot of that unbalance up with a big boost to ROPs and Memory bandwidth.

But yeah. Graphics Core Next is done and dusted at this point...

Navi will be a replacement for Polaris, Vega 20 is AMD's new high-end offering.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13832/amd-radeon-vii-high-end-7nm-february-7th-for-699





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fatslob-:O on 10 January 2019

TBH, I don't have much hope in Navi scoring a home run. There's arguably a higher chance of game developers saving AMD graphics at this point than AMD themselves once they ditch Windows 7 ...



Pemalite on 10 January 2019

Navi isn't going to be a high-end part at this point anyway.
It will be interesting to see what this means for Next Generation consoles if they don't have Next-Generation graphics hardware.

AMD could still surprise though and tack on a few new features to Navi that wows, but I wouldn't hedge bets at this point.




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fatslob-:O on 10 January 2019
Pemalite said:
Navi isn't going to be a high-end part at this point anyway.
It will be interesting to see what this means for Next Generation consoles if they don't have Next-Generation graphics hardware.

AMD could still surprise though and tack on a few new features to Navi that wows, but I wouldn't hedge bets at this point.

Won't mean much because console development environment is very well optimized on AMD hardware so the Scorpio engine is nearly as good as a GTX 1070 but the same isn't true on PC and then you have reviewers like DF who uses very flawed and outdated benchmarks like Crysis 3 ... 

With AMD, they rely on a community effort (partners and developers) to get the best out of their hardware ... (if developers don't care it pretty much ends in a vicious cycle where their competitor gains more market share and then the said developers go on to optimize for the competitors) 

If AMD isn't going to use their advantage to play dirty such as using features to tank performance on their competitors hardware to gain parity in games then there's not much of a future with them. I'm surprised why AMD haven't tried something as bold as creating their own game engine or making timed exclusive deal for PC game publishers ...