I think it's a good thing that parts of DOMA are gone, BUT I do agree with the dissenting opinions that the court didn't have any constitutional basis to strike it down. Just because it's "right" to do so doesn't mean the justices can go and smack down whatever laws they disagree with. Part of Alito's dissenting opinion (much tamer than Scalia's rant - which had some decent points nonetheless*) argued that, under the constitution as it is currently, the court has no authority to define marriage, and that it must be left to lawmakers to do so.

Change the laws or change the constitution, until then I do feel like the court overstepped here.

But I also think the end result is a good thing.

I'm both disappointed and pleased.



*Scalia did point out that in two previous courts the same case was tried, both the plaintiff and the U.S. agreed with the lower courts' verdicts. He thought it rather odd - or perhaps infuriating - that the SCOTUS chose to hear a case in which every party was already satisfied by the outcome not once but twice.

Well surely you agree that an adult shouldn't sleep with someone who is under the age of say 14 (I believe if someone is 18 or 19 then they should be allowed to sleep with 16 or so (still considered underage, usually if parents know about it and approve then it doesn't become an issue)).  So you probably don't support pedophiles and rapist right?  Surely you wouldn't think it is right for a father to marry his daughter or mother and son right?  There are always limits to be put on sexuality. 

That is completely off this topic. Those things are banned for obvious reasons. I don't really think I need to touch on why incest is bad.

Pedophilia is bad because a child isn't able to give consent and isn't responsible enough and old enough to be in that position. That's why age of consent laws were created. Rape is also obviously wrong as one side consents while the other has said they do not consent making it really an act of violence.

What I should have added to make this response not happen is replace "people" with "consenting adults".

it's about marriage outlaw, it has nothing to do with either ;p

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Yay for human rights! (still sad that we need those changes though)

I consider marriage a event that is very closely tied to both.

Especially considering all the laws binding the three together.

thats not what the other ruling means. it just means states will now all be treated equal regarding voter laws. What is so wrong with that?

No rights were lost. all that was changed was that states are now trated equal when making voter loaws. There were certain states that had to get approval from the feds for voter laws while others did not. This just brings equality to all states.

That wasn't great paraphasing. What changed was that now certain states do not have to get approval from the feds for voter laws. so basically its making all states equal by having them follow the same law making options with out a need for federal appproval. Why should some states be forced to go to the feds and not others? its only fair this way.

You could say the same about any of the justices. They are each appointed by politicians, after all. Kennedy is the closest to being unbiased, and he's really the swing vote on the SCotUS that decides close cases like this.

While this decision gets us closer to "equality", it really doesn't address the most important issue. True "equality" would extend benefits to polygamists and singles as well, rendering the benefits of government defined marriage unnecessary. In other words; the government has no business being involved in marriage in any form whatsoever. Why do we need government to enter into a committed relationship with someone? Any problems can be resolved via contract without third party coercion.

(Disclaimer; I'm not gay, but I fully support the right of gays to marry and whatnot. No problems at all with it. My problem is with government sticking its nose into marriage in the first place.)

There are some opinions not worthy of respect due to bigotry, ignorance, stupidity or a combination of all of these.