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thetonestarr said:
JerCotter7 said:
Gotta love Samsung. Adding shit no one wants just for the sake of it. Looking at you S4.


What're you talking about?


I'd guess wave to answer, tilt to scroll, eye-tracking, and other useless and poorly thought out GS4 features.



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famousringo said:
thetonestarr said:
JerCotter7 said:
Gotta love Samsung. Adding shit no one wants just for the sake of it. Looking at you S4.

What're you talking about?

I'd guess wave to answer, tilt to scroll, eye-tracking, and other useless and poorly thought out GS4 features.

However, this doesn't seem to be any of that. So in relation to this device his comment seems out of place.



superchunk said:
famousringo said:
thetonestarr said:
JerCotter7 said:
Gotta love Samsung. Adding shit no one wants just for the sake of it. Looking at you S4.

What're you talking about?

I'd guess wave to answer, tilt to scroll, eye-tracking, and other useless and poorly thought out GS4 features.

However, this doesn't seem to be any of that. So in relation to this device his comment seems out of place.


It's adding things together that the consumer never asked for. So it applies here. I can't remember anyone asking for a windows/androud dual boot device. Basically this is a device that no one will get and those that do will stick one OS. 

What are the benifits to this?



superchunk said:
NiKKoM said:

hmmm I looked some stuff up http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130619PD222.html

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Microsoft's Windows RT operating system may fall to the same fate as Hewlett-Packard's (HP) webOS as most brand vendors have already stopped developing related products, leaving Microsoft's second-generation Surface RT, the only Windows RT-based device in the next-generation tablet competition, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

Microsoft is also having trouble gaining growth in the smartphone industry, the company currently only has less than 1% and 3% shares in tablet and smartphone markets, respectively, the sources said.
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That's bad if there are no new RT devices... and the second part is just sad.. there should be room for a third OS..

Interesting info. But I figured it would die off. I personally don't see why they were diverging their OS like that anyways.


Windows RT tablets are getting 95% of the apps that Windows 8 tablets and desktops are getting. They could not release a new tablet for 2 years and then come out and it will have 100,000 of apps. When making a windows 8 app, you literally check a checkbox in the Microsoft publishing API and it will publish the app on Win RT (if possible)

Essentially what I am trying to say is that they don't need to introduce new hardware to keep the development for WinRT going. It piggybacks off Win8. 

there are talks of new Surface RT coming out with Qualcom chipset, Lenovo is making them, Asus is making them, Dell, HP make em...Acer and Samsung are on the fence.

I don't see this dying any time soon.



disolitude said:


Windows RT tablets are getting 95% of the apps that Windows 8 tablets and desktops are getting. They could not release a new tablet for 2 years and then come out and it will have 100,000 of apps. When making a windows 8 app, you literally check a checkbox in the Microsoft publishing API and it will publish the app on Win RT (if possible)

Essentially what I am trying to say is that they don't need to introduce new hardware to keep the development for WinRT going. It piggybacks off Win8. 

there are talks of new Surface RT coming out with Qualcom chipset, Lenovo is making them, Asus is making them, Dell, HP make em...Acer and Samsung are on the fence.

I don't see this dying any time soon.

But my point was that they should of just made winphone8 that non-X86 based OS. Kinda how Android is on phone/tablet and ChromeOS is on PCs. Seems like adding a third OS tier was a bit much.



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JerCotter7 said:


It's adding things together that the consumer never asked for. So it applies here. I can't remember anyone asking for a windows/androud dual boot device. Basically this is a device that no one will get and those that do will stick one OS. 

What are the benifits to this?

Actually a lot of people have been gaga of this as its been demoed mostly with Ubuntu linux.

Then there is the current program you can install on yoru windows PC that let's you run android apps as well. Its been pretty popular too.

There is a market. Its just not you.

I'd love the idea of a Android tablet that becomes a laptop that can play Steam games.



superchunk said:
disolitude said:


Windows RT tablets are getting 95% of the apps that Windows 8 tablets and desktops are getting. They could not release a new tablet for 2 years and then come out and it will have 100,000 of apps. When making a windows 8 app, you literally check a checkbox in the Microsoft publishing API and it will publish the app on Win RT (if possible)

Essentially what I am trying to say is that they don't need to introduce new hardware to keep the development for WinRT going. It piggybacks off Win8. 

there are talks of new Surface RT coming out with Qualcom chipset, Lenovo is making them, Asus is making them, Dell, HP make em...Acer and Samsung are on the fence.

I don't see this dying any time soon.

But my point was that they should of just made winphone8 that non-X86 based OS. Kinda how Android is on phone/tablet and ChromeOS is on PCs. Seems like adding a third OS tier was a bit much.


I don't know. Android tried this with Honeycomb it was a tabled based OS. Microsoft is trying to bet on both horses (arm and intel)... I don't think Windows Phone 8 would give them the flexibility they need for a tablet OS and certanly wouldn't work for apps since Windows 8 apps and Windows phone apps are not shared.

You buy on Win 8 you also buy on RT...win phone is a seperate beast. 



disolitude said:

I don't know. Android tried this with Honeycomb it was a tabled based OS. Microsoft is trying to bet on both horses (arm and intel)... I don't think Windows Phone 8 would give them the flexibility they need for a tablet OS and certanly wouldn't work for apps since Windows 8 apps and Windows phone apps are not shared.

You buy on Win 8 you also buy on RT...win phone is a seperate beast. 

True, but honeycomb was just a stepping stone to get to jelly bean (a full solution for all screen sizes) which is also becoming the solution for GoogleTV.

Also true that win8RT was solely for arm while win8 was for x86... but they already had winphone for arm. I think they would have been better off making sure win8 could run on arm AND doing their best to bring winphone8 and win8 under similar umbrella so apps flow accross.

Someing iOS and Android also need to do in regards to their Mac and ChromeOS platforms.



that looks badass!
I might buy it after the price drops down a little cuz i know it will be expensive.



JerCotter7 said:
superchunk said:
famousringo said:
thetonestarr said:
JerCotter7 said:
Gotta love Samsung. Adding shit no one wants just for the sake of it. Looking at you S4.

What're you talking about?

I'd guess wave to answer, tilt to scroll, eye-tracking, and other useless and poorly thought out GS4 features.

However, this doesn't seem to be any of that. So in relation to this device his comment seems out of place.


It's adding things together that the consumer never asked for. So it applies here. I can't remember anyone asking for a windows/androud dual boot device. Basically this is a device that no one will get and those that do will stick one OS. 

What are the benifits to this?


i do, I even emaled them once asking if it was possible to isntall more than one OS