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fordy on 20 June 2013
thismeintiel said:
What should worry people is that they are doing this with a simple FW update. They're not completely taking what they have announced out of the system. It'll be all there at launch, only they are using a SW work around. That means that if they change their minds (not saying they will), all it will take is a simple FW update and everything is back to how they originally planned the Xbox One.

And I would imagine MS has also spent quite a bit of money putting everything in place for this DRM, including a special network for retailers to go through if they want to sell One SW. Not sure if they are willing for that money to go to waste, completely.

So now there was special "spy hardware" implemented or something?



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Damnyouall on 20 June 2013

Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Seece on 20 June 2013
Azerth said:
Seece said:

The internet connect (once every 24 hours) was soleyl to check libraries so it could erase games if people had traded them in. With it gone they've confirmed you can't install your games and that's that. There isn't anything else they need to figure out.

@ Disolitude - I don't know why cloud even keeps coming up in this discussion, it's totally seperate in my eyes? Nothing today has effected their plans for it, whatever they may be.


Which would have allowed there game sharing feature which is now no longer availabe 

Yeah, sorry I thought you were talking about the cloud. They've already confirmed the cool ideas they had are toast.



 

fordy on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

I guess the DRM Rootkit scandal never happened, then? At least Microsoft were open about their DRM attempts.

 

EDIT: Also PSNPass



Seece on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

You're just regurgating what is being discussed in this thread. Again who knows what discussions took place behind closed doors and how close Sony came to going DRM/online. They've introduced paywall and they've said DRM is up to third parties, stop making out they're not anti consumer too.



 

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Damnyouall on 20 June 2013
fordy said:
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

I guess the DRM Rootkit scandal never happened, then?

 

That was Sony-Bertelsmann, and while it was outrageous (on a different level), they didn't try to implement a system that would take away our right to own property.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Seece on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
fordy said:
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

I guess the DRM Rootkit scandal never happened, then?

 

That was Sony-Bertelsmann, and while it was outrageous (on a different level), they didn't try to implement a system that would take away our right to own property.

AFAIK nothing has changed, the software on the disc is still owned by pubs and devs, and the physical disc you still own, even with the X1 restrictions in place.



 

fordy on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
fordy said:
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

I guess the DRM Rootkit scandal never happened, then?

 

That was Sony-Bertelsmann, and while it was outrageous (on a different level), they didn't try to implement a system that would take away our right to own property.


If you wish to reap the benefits of a conglomerate, you must also suffer the consequences associated with it. The decision came from the same executive board. 

Actually, they did. A CD is a license to play that music for personal use. Restricting the consumer's right to transfer that music to a portable player in order to protect from copies is EXACTLY what people are up in arms about with the used game thing on Xbox One.

I'll say it again: Microsoft may have been in the wrong, but at least they were open an honest about their DRM attempt, not hiding it under our noses and hoping nobody noticed..



walsufnir on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.


Wow, we never heard this before! I like these unique users here on VGC with their innovative thoughts no one has ever had before...



walsufnir on 20 June 2013
Damnyouall said:
fordy said:
Damnyouall said:
Food for thought: Microsoft tried to take away our rights. Sony didn't.

I guess the DRM Rootkit scandal never happened, then?

 

That was Sony-Bertelsmann, and while it was outrageous (on a different level), they didn't try to implement a system that would take away our right to own property.


No, of course not, rootkits are just normal software, no worries... It's getting ridiculous by now...