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richardhutnik on 19 June 2013
DélioPT said:
I expect MS to sell less than PS4 at launch, but i don`t think the cause of that will be DRM.
Even if people don`t like it, truth is, the vast majority of gamers can, without restraints, use the console every single day. And when the big games start coming out, all that DRm talk will become less importante because gamers will realize it really doesn`t affect them that much.

The real problem is the 499 price tag. That`s the real hurdle!
My guess is that MS saw what happened to Sony and how things have turned out for them. And even if XB1 goes the same route, they know it can end well for them.
They also know the impact they can have in the states.

So, in the end, they know what they are sacrificing, but to them - and in my view aswell, it will only hurt them for so long.

$499 and no signs of it having any raw specs superior to that of the PS4.  That and DRM are issues.  It would remind me again a bit of the Saturn launch in the United States.  The Saturn showed no signs of being superior than the Playstation in doing polygons.  The Playstation won out, being $100 cheaper than the Saturn in the United States, eventhough the Saturn did launch first, Sega lost.



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DélioPT on 19 June 2013
richardhutnik said:
DélioPT said:
I expect MS to sell less than PS4 at launch, but i don`t think the cause of that will be DRM.
Even if people don`t like it, truth is, the vast majority of gamers can, without restraints, use the console every single day. And when the big games start coming out, all that DRm talk will become less importante because gamers will realize it really doesn`t affect them that much.

The real problem is the 499 price tag. That`s the real hurdle!
My guess is that MS saw what happened to Sony and how things have turned out for them. And even if XB1 goes the same route, they know it can end well for them.
They also know the impact they can have in the states.

So, in the end, they know what they are sacrificing, but to them - and in my view aswell, it will only hurt them for so long.

$499 and no signs of it having any raw specs superior to that of the PS4.  That and DRM are issues.  It would remind me again a bit of the Saturn launch in the United States.  The Saturn showed no signs of being superior than the Playstation in doing polygons.  The Playstation won out, being $100 cheaper than the Saturn in the United States, eventhough the Saturn did launch first, Sega lost.

Being inferior to the PS4 won`t be an issue because there won`t be any problem porting the games to XB1 and the difference won`t be bigger than what we can see from PS3 vs XB360.

DRM is an issue but only from a gamer perception. How many gamers in the stated and europe won`t actually be able to own one and play? Would those territories even a good number of sales to XB1 (sales that they could need)?

PS own because Sony did everything right with it, despite it`s slow start.



theprof00 on 19 June 2013
ironmanDX said:
If the xbox division Blackhawks is in doubt then... What's Sony Bruins? For the people arguing, ask that first.





DJEVOLVE on 19 June 2013
cablebox said:
DJEVOLVE said:


HI I'm massive MS marketing machine, Have we met?


you still got beat by a toy with a gimmick and a console with no games, what the hell did you do this gen massive MS marketing machine


I've been building up for the X1. I stole a majority of Sony's 3rd party Bed fellows and looking to get into more steady relationships with first party. I think I like sex with first party more than third. 

So I'm getting my thrusting going, Just a matter of time before more exculusives join my bedroom. You should come!



DJEVOLVE on 19 June 2013
theprof00 said:
ironmanDX said:
If the xbox division Blackhawks is in doubt then... What's Sony Bruins? For the people arguing, ask that first.




Hey, hey, hey, hey.... Calm down. Blackhawks did not do anything to you. OHHHHHHHHH you watching tonight. I'm guessing Bruins fan. This place is getting overwhelming.

Lets make a bet if so. I'm going blackhawks all the way. however they better play a lot better then they have in their last 2 games. WTF>



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cablebox on 19 June 2013
DJEVOLVE said:
cablebox said:
DJEVOLVE said:


HI I'm massive MS marketing machine, Have we met?


you still got beat by a toy with a gimmick and a console with no games, what the hell did you do this gen massive MS marketing machine


I've been building up for the X1. I stole a majority of Sony's 3rd party Bed fellows and looking to get into more steady relationships with first party. I think I like sex with first party more than third. 

So I'm getting my thrusting going, Just a matter of time before more exculusives join my bedroom. You should come!



I am cumming right now