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mantlepiecek on 01 June 2013

It could also mean that 360 has more gamers who are casual and some gamers who are ultra-core.



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Lafiel on 01 June 2013

Microsoft never released software shipment numbers though. They mentioned attach rates a few times, but not very recently anymore (the last 2-3 years) as far as I remember.



bananaking21 on 01 June 2013

that man you quoted seems very very smart and sexy



pokoko on 01 June 2013
Jay520 said:
pokoko said:

Interesting thought.  Having a year without competition couldn't have hurt.

Anyone have attach ratio by year? So we can compare growth? The PS3 having Day One digital for new releases will probably throw that number off somewhat. Wish we had those numbers.


See above. The PS3 has been growing faster (I think), but every year its attach ratio is still lower. As for digital sales, I'm not too sure about that. However, digital distribution is generally agreed to favor the 360.

Sources, please.  I'm not sure why digital would favor the 360 when they don't have games at release.  Where did you read that?

Regardless, as I'm sure you know, the conclusion in your OP makes no sense.  A core gamer who buys 10 games a year is core gamer.  A core gamer who buy 40 games a year is a core gamer.  The higher attach ratio could mean that 360 owners buy more games per person, not that there are more core gamers period.  That would actually make sense, as the US, which the 360 dominates, has a very high attach ratio.



Jay520 on 01 June 2013
mantlepiecek said:

It could also mean that 360 has more gamers who are casual and some gamers who are ultra-core.



Perhaps, but that would be a large assumption. It would be better to assume an even distribution of core-casual gamers cause we have no to measure the proportion. Either way, even if the 360 was as you said, it would still mean the overall core-ness of the 360 outweighs the PS3 even with a higher proportion of casuals.

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brendude13 on 01 June 2013

Ehh, I don't think attach ratio means that much. Looking at sales of big multiplatform games, I'd say they're both equal.



mantlepiecek on 01 June 2013
Jay520 said:
mantlepiecek said:

It could also mean that 360 has more gamers who are casual and some gamers who are ultra-core.


Perhaps, but that would be a large assumption. It would be better to assume an even distribution of core-casual gamers cause we have no to measure the proportion. Either way, even if the 360 was as you said, it would still mean the overall core-ness of the 360 outweighs the PS3 even with a higher proportion of casuals.

Not if the coreness is defined by the no. of core gamers. After a certain no, no matter how many more you buy it wouldn't really make you more "core".

If anything it depends upon the playing habits of the gamer. I mean if you include PS Plus into this things might be different.



Jay520 on 01 June 2013
pokoko said:
Jay520 said:
pokoko said:

Interesting thought.  Having a year without competition couldn't have hurt.

Anyone have attach ratio by year? So we can compare growth? The PS3 having Day One digital for new releases will probably throw that number off somewhat. Wish we had those numbers.


See above. The PS3 has been growing faster (I think), but every year its attach ratio is still lower. As for digital sales, I'm not too sure about that. However, digital distribution is generally agreed to favor the 360.

Sources, please.  I'm not sure why digital would favor the 360 when they don't have games at release.  Where did you read that?

Regardless, as I'm sure you know, the conclusion in your OP makes no sense.  A core gamer who buys 10 games a year is core gamer.  A core gamer who buy 40 games a year is a core gamer.  The higher attach ratio could mean that 360 owners buy more games per person, not that there are more core gamers period.  That would actually make sense, as the US, which the 360 dominates, has a very high attach ratio.



Then you disagree with the notion that a gamer who purchases more games is more of a core gamer than one who buys less games. Nothing to argue here. The word "core" isn't formally defined so no definition is right. I think mine is best though.

How long has the PS3 had digital games at release? Like I said, I'm not too sure so I didn't consider it. I'm just telling what the consensus seems to be.

Jay520 on 01 June 2013
mantlepiecek said:
Jay520 said:
mantlepiecek said:

It could also mean that 360 has more gamers who are casual and some gamers who are ultra-core.


Perhaps, but that would be a large assumption. It would be better to assume an even distribution of core-casual gamers cause we have no to measure the proportion. Either way, even if the 360 was as you said, it would still mean the overall core-ness of the 360 outweighs the PS3 even with a higher proportion of casuals.

Not if the coreness is defined by the no. of core gamers. After a certain no, no matter how many more you buy it wouldn't really make you more "core".

If anything it depends upon the playing habits of the gamer. I mean if you include PS Plus into this things might be different.



Your right. Maybe I should have said the 360's core gamers are more core than the PS3's core gamers. PSPlus could be a big factor though, but I wonder how widespread it actually is.

pokoko on 01 June 2013

I think it's interesting to note that many big releases actually have a higher tie ratio in the US on the PS3 than the 360. Sports, fighting, and racing games? Higher on the PS3. Black Ops? Higher on the PS3. And a lot of other games are close.