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the2real4mafol on 23 May 2013
oniyide said:
the2real4mafol said:

I remember when Xbox was the console for indie games, those days are clearly over. What a shame. But that Nintendo manager comments makes it even better. It's like microsoft are giving the competition a hand

But as small as indies are, ignoring them is just really stupid. Where would iOS be if it weren't for indie game developers? probably, no where


I remember when SOME xbox fans used to flaunt and tout the xbl indie scene as a point that the other two didnt have, now some are these same people are saying that indies arent important all of a sudden? Interesting.

I can imagine some people in this forum are like that, but whether they realise it's them is another matter



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Darc Requiem on 23 May 2013
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
The sad saga continues. Everyone thought Nintendo was the on that didn't "get it" but it's MS that doesn't get it. The Xbox One blunders are making Sony's PS3 and Nintendo's N64 blunders look like pure genius at this point. Anyone continuing to support their behavior needs to take their fanboy blinders off. If MS' succeed with their restrictive policies it will set a poor precedent and you'll likely see Sony and Nintendo follow suit.


Wow the fact that you are stating this is really telling about the whole situation.


I'm not sure why my opinion would carry any more weight than anyone else. Just calling it like I see it.

maybe im wrong, but i always pegged you as an MS guy so i was just surprised is all.


I'm a gamer. I usually buy all platforms although I dont think I'll be doing that this gen. If anything, I'm a Nintendo guy.



oniyide on 24 May 2013
Darc Requiem said:
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
The sad saga continues. Everyone thought Nintendo was the on that didn't "get it" but it's MS that doesn't get it. The Xbox One blunders are making Sony's PS3 and Nintendo's N64 blunders look like pure genius at this point. Anyone continuing to support their behavior needs to take their fanboy blinders off. If MS' succeed with their restrictive policies it will set a poor precedent and you'll likely see Sony and Nintendo follow suit.


Wow the fact that you are stating this is really telling about the whole situation.


I'm not sure why my opinion would carry any more weight than anyone else. Just calling it like I see it.

maybe im wrong, but i always pegged you as an MS guy so i was just surprised is all.


I'm a gamer. I usually buy all platforms although I dont think I'll be doing that this gen. If anything, I'm a Nintendo guy.

fair enough



oniyide on 24 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
oniyide said:
Mr Puggsly said:
oniyide said:

naw man, there were people using the whole indie thing in their fanboy war, now some of those same people are saying now its not important. 

In the grand scheme, the indie scene isn't very important. Even if some people boasted. They don't really make system selling games.

Anyhow, this news doesn't mean MS won't continue to publish indie games. They published many on the 360, you think they're gonna stop now?

Nope but i can see alot less going to their system. And devs jumping ship to others. MS isnt the only game in town far from it. Even if it isnt very important, which i never argued i was pointing out the hypocrisy of some people.

Perhaps some developers may jump ship. That's good thing, it means Sony and NIntendo are finally being reasonable to indie developers. But it doesn't mean its end of indie games on MS platforms.

You said people in their fanboy war are now saying indie games aren't important. I'm confirming to you that's pretty is accurate. They aren't very important. We aren't anxious for new consoles to see low budget indie games.


So i guess when people were touting the xbox indie games all these years they were full of it? Interesting.



Nyleveia on 24 May 2013
Imaginedvl said:
gatito said:
Imaginedvl said:
WOW Nintendo and few indie devs are making bad comments about the Xbox One...
Yep, Microsoft is doomed :)

Also, you should change your title for "Indie Devs"...


What difference does it make? They're developers after all, don't treat them in the same demeaning way Microsoft does.

I am one of them... We are a team of 5 working on an indie MMORPG. And guess what Microsoft is helping us a lot with our project by giving us ressources, softwares and the infrastructures (we are targetting windows 8 and RT).

It is funny how most of you have no clue of what you are talking about and when an indie dev is crying you are just blaming the big bad publisher instead.
Even if we are indie (by indie I mean that we are founding ourselves and plan to publish our games by ourselves too) we are just looking at some of them out them complaining and it is giving the indie community a bad image. I will not complain about Sony but we approached them and they are not as "nice with indie" as you think. But this is just expected as MS and Sony cannot please everyone; now we will not go out there and start bitching on them like some other indie studios are doing.

When you state that Microsoft is "demeaning" them... You are completly clueless.

a team of 5 making an mmorpg? pull the other one will ya, or at leaat provide a little proof, until you do this post is filed under 'more forum bs'



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VGKing on 24 May 2013

I'd love to see more than just twitter reactions. I'd love to see real-world reactions. Get some exclusive games on the PS4 or something.



ubergeekzilla on 24 May 2013

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Imaginedvl on 25 May 2013
Nyleveia said:
Imaginedvl said:
gatito said:
Imaginedvl said:
WOW Nintendo and few indie devs are making bad comments about the Xbox One...
Yep, Microsoft is doomed :)

Also, you should change your title for "Indie Devs"...


What difference does it make? They're developers after all, don't treat them in the same demeaning way Microsoft does.

I am one of them... We are a team of 5 working on an indie MMORPG. And guess what Microsoft is helping us a lot with our project by giving us ressources, softwares and the infrastructures (we are targetting windows 8 and RT).

It is funny how most of you have no clue of what you are talking about and when an indie dev is crying you are just blaming the big bad publisher instead.
Even if we are indie (by indie I mean that we are founding ourselves and plan to publish our games by ourselves too) we are just looking at some of them out them complaining and it is giving the indie community a bad image. I will not complain about Sony but we approached them and they are not as "nice with indie" as you think. But this is just expected as MS and Sony cannot please everyone; now we will not go out there and start bitching on them like some other indie studios are doing.

When you state that Microsoft is "demeaning" them... You are completly clueless.

a team of 5 making an mmorpg? pull the other one will ya, or at leaat provide a little proof, until you do this post is filed under 'more forum bs'

Already posted this in another thread; just look at it I do not twant to get banned for advertizing it.

You know the fact that you are calling bullshit on this is just showing me the kind of person you are and I do not need or which to prove anything to you :)
And if you do that with anyone who is simply stating their reality I can see why it is so hard this day to have an intelligent and constructive debate on internet forums... I have no clue why in your mind, our team is not able to work on a MMORPG, just because we are only 5..

Just call it BS if it makes you happy.  



Nyleveia on 25 May 2013
Imaginedvl said:
Nyleveia said:
Imaginedvl said:
gatito said:
Imaginedvl said:
WOW Nintendo and few indie devs are making bad comments about the Xbox One...
Yep, Microsoft is doomed :)

Also, you should change your title for "Indie Devs"...


What difference does it make? They're developers after all, don't treat them in the same demeaning way Microsoft does.

I am one of them... We are a team of 5 working on an indie MMORPG. And guess what Microsoft is helping us a lot with our project by giving us ressources, softwares and the infrastructures (we are targetting windows 8 and RT).

It is funny how most of you have no clue of what you are talking about and when an indie dev is crying you are just blaming the big bad publisher instead.
Even if we are indie (by indie I mean that we are founding ourselves and plan to publish our games by ourselves too) we are just looking at some of them out them complaining and it is giving the indie community a bad image. I will not complain about Sony but we approached them and they are not as "nice with indie" as you think. But this is just expected as MS and Sony cannot please everyone; now we will not go out there and start bitching on them like some other indie studios are doing.

When you state that Microsoft is "demeaning" them... You are completly clueless.

a team of 5 making an mmorpg? pull the other one will ya, or at leaat provide a little proof, until you do this post is filed under 'more forum bs'

Already posted this in another thread; just look at it I do not twant to get banned for advertizing it.

You know the fact that you are calling bullshit on this is just showing me the kind of person you are and I do not need or which to prove anything to you :)
And if you do that with anyone who is simply stating their reality I can see why it is so hard this day to have an intelligent and constructive debate on internet forums... I have no clue why in your mind, our team is not able to work on a MMORPG, just because we are only 5..

Just call it BS if it makes you happy.  


blah blah blah no proof, shrouded in long winded 'i dont need to prove myself' drivel.

I'm a cynic, the internet is awash with liars and wannabes so it takes more than just words to make me believe something, i would happily accept i was wrong if given reason to, and doing so would be a refreshing change, so by all means do so, but you might also want to give explanation why microsoft pc software msdn guys have any bearing what so ever on the xbox brand division, because the two entities arent hand in pocket. secondly it'll take more than hand picking a paricular game, some irrefutable evidence of your envolvement would make a huge difference.

But hey, prove me wrong there and take a snappy of your xdk or software and again, i'm more than gladly admit im wrong.

 

also, screw worrying about a ban, if you got banned for posting information about a game you are genuinely making then you have to ask yourself if these forums are even worth being on, i sure would if it was me.



Imaginedvl on 25 May 2013
Nyleveia said:
Imaginedvl said:
Nyleveia said:
Imaginedvl said:
gatito said:
Imaginedvl said:
WOW Nintendo and few indie devs are making bad comments about the Xbox One...
Yep, Microsoft is doomed :)

Also, you should change your title for "Indie Devs"...


What difference does it make? They're developers after all, don't treat them in the same demeaning way Microsoft does.

I am one of them... We are a team of 5 working on an indie MMORPG. And guess what Microsoft is helping us a lot with our project by giving us ressources, softwares and the infrastructures (we are targetting windows 8 and RT).

It is funny how most of you have no clue of what you are talking about and when an indie dev is crying you are just blaming the big bad publisher instead.
Even if we are indie (by indie I mean that we are founding ourselves and plan to publish our games by ourselves too) we are just looking at some of them out them complaining and it is giving the indie community a bad image. I will not complain about Sony but we approached them and they are not as "nice with indie" as you think. But this is just expected as MS and Sony cannot please everyone; now we will not go out there and start bitching on them like some other indie studios are doing.

When you state that Microsoft is "demeaning" them... You are completly clueless.

a team of 5 making an mmorpg? pull the other one will ya, or at leaat provide a little proof, until you do this post is filed under 'more forum bs'

Already posted this in another thread; just look at it I do not twant to get banned for advertizing it.

You know the fact that you are calling bullshit on this is just showing me the kind of person you are and I do not need or which to prove anything to you :)
And if you do that with anyone who is simply stating their reality I can see why it is so hard this day to have an intelligent and constructive debate on internet forums... I have no clue why in your mind, our team is not able to work on a MMORPG, just because we are only 5..

Just call it BS if it makes you happy.  


blah blah blah no proof, shrouded in long winded 'i dont need to prove myself' drivel.

Ok :)