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mii-gamer on 17 May 2013

If the Wii U dies, It will give the haters the fuel to hate on nintendo more. Nintendo needs to show their composure and fight back even though the loud vocal of the community wants them to fail. Wii U dying has no benefits at all



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Soundwave on 17 May 2013

Had a chuckle from this from NeoGaf:



DieAppleDie on 17 May 2013

Excuse me since when are 30m sales bad?

People think GC flopped but in reality it was profitable on its own. It sold quite a lot of sw.

If you cant profit with 20m units of your product sold, and its games, then youre doing things wrong.



zorg1000 on 17 May 2013
Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:
RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:
RolStoppable said:

So what about the here and now when it comes to third parties. Answer me this: Do you believe that all major third parties will support Nintendo throughout the generation, if only Nintendo provides hardware with comparable specs?

I think Nintendo genuinely had a window of oppurtunity here that they didn't recoginize properly. The blue ocean market has indeed moved on to tablets/phones, but there is a large market that's sick to death of their PS3/360 and wants to move on. Developers too, I think the development community wants to move on badly. That was actually the market Nintendo should've targetted. People are starving for a generational leap, not yet another 360/PS3 with a low-res screen taped to a Pro Controller.

There is no conspiracy against Nintendo either, they just keep making hardware that's hilariously out of step with what Western developers want. If they made a piece of hardware that was in tune with what Western developers want (which is basically a PC GPU in a box) it would probably be enthusiastically supported.

Especially if it's the only game in town for a year, a lot of publishers IMO would look at it and say "hey lets get a jump on the next-generation and be the next dominant publisher for the next 5-6 years by making the first next-gen blockbuster". Third parties don't actively dislike Nintendo, it's just that Nintendo keeps giving them reasons to look elsewhere.

What do Japanese third parties want?


This is where I think Nintendo wil gey alot of support from. Sega/Namco/Capcom/Square Enix gave GC/Wii a solid amount of exclusives and I think Wii U will be the same. As for western devs Ubisoft/Activision will likely support it with multiplats for thw next few years.

Id also like Nintendo to continue doing partnerships on games that havent sold very well. Games like Soul Calibur and Ninja Gaiden last installments didnt sell too well, Nintendo should publish thoae games and help revitalize them.


They're really not getting a lot of support from these devs though. The Japanese release lineup is worse than the Western one. The Japanese Wii U lineup is atrociously bad.

I think the problem is Japanese publishers have become so scared of the market that making a game for a tiny userbase in the Wii U versus the similar PS3/360 which have far bigger userbases (even in Japan it will take the Wii U years most likely to match the PS3 if it ever does) is a flat out no-way.

Unfortunately I think the Japanese third party industry has been reduced to about 4 franchises that have global relevance -- Final Fantasy, Street Fighter (back from the dead for now), Resident Evil, and Metal Gear, and even with these four, two of them on massive decline (Final Fantasy and Resident Evil). 

Things like Megaman, Castlevania, Contra, Silent Hill, Soul Calibur, Tekken, Ninja Gaiden, any non-Final Fantasy Squaresoft IP, is either in retirement, in niche status, or has been mismanaged into ruin.

They havent supported them yet but im almost positive those companies will have games on Wii U starting next year. Those games are the kind I could see Nintendo publishing and bringing back to relevance.



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