One, we have no evidence that a slow day or two at a tiny chain like comgnet means anything to the wider market.

Two, I would like to point out that when we are doing comparisons to Lets Go, we need to remember that the double pack should really count as 2 orders- which makes the overall preorder number look a lot better right now.

I'm sorry, are you actually upset that I think Pokemon is doing poorly? If you think COMG is that insignificant, why are you here? Did you make an account just to defend Pokemon? I like Pokemon, I just think we have reason to think this is a bad sign. It's not a slow day or two, it's just slow. Period. This is the slowest any mainline Pokemon game has ever been at COMG. The chain isn't that much smaller than it was a few years ago, and you've been here for a day, you weren't here to see how this place used to react to a Pokemon game. This is NOT normal, and the chain shrinking does NOT explain it. If you think it should count double, why don't you try to convince Boutros to count it double? Trust me, we've all heard these arguments before.

Huh, very odd for P5R to jump up so much today. There wasn't even a new trailer uploaded. A nice day for DQXIS is good to see as well.

There is no need to get hostile. I certainly wasn't. 

I've been tracking comgnet for years- I still use it as a very rough reference but its completely factual to point out that its ratio is not nearly what it used to be and especially for Switch games they are especially off.

I'm not trying to convince Boutros of anything- just making the point that if we're going to look at preorders compared to Lets Go (which, IMO is be far the best comparison to use), double packs on comgnet will count as 2 game sales on famitsu and the comparison with Lets Go looks better. That's all.

This isn't the first pokemon game to have double packs though. Also Amazon Japan shows it hasn't been doing very well either, if you wanted another source aside from COMG.

Pokemon is looking a lot better on Amazon than COMG though, with three SKUs ranking above the highest P5R SKU (#19, #29. #32, with P5R at #34)

Right..its 3 months out and doing just fine on amazon. 

I'm not saying there won't possibly be another mainline decline..but I don't think the numbers at this point support anything too worrying.

Pokemon not having multiple SKUs in the top 10 on Amazon is worrying enough on its own. Even Let's Go had that. It is NOT doing fine on Amazon. I would expect it would have some SKUs there above Persona, seeing as Persona has 2/3rds the points of Pokemon on COMG. The performance is proportional, and Amazon is not a counter to the fact that Pokemon is doing poorly. I want it to succeed, I really do, but it just isn't. Why do so many people feel the need to deny the obvious? I'm going to buy Pokemon when it comes out, and so are you, its sales performance has nothing to do with that. But right now, I see no reason to believe that things are normal, and I think it will have consequences for Game Freak.

I call BS. You've been here for years, but only come out of the woodwork today because someone slighted Pokemon? I've been following this thread since its current inception when I was a lurker, and with an account for years, this isn't the first double pack, it's just the first double pack that didn't completely sell out by now. I've never seen the non-double versions take this long to catch up to the double version before, they should both have surpassed it by now. The ratio is about 1:2000 now instead of 1:1000 like before, but even if you double the points of the Switch games, they still wouldn't even be on track to outsell Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon. That's excusable with a spinoff like Let's Go, but it's just weird to see it happen with a mainline entry, especially the first mainline entry both for a new gen and for a new system. I'm sure the title will sell fine worldwide, but the brand actually seems to have been damaged by the failure to bring the national dex to the new gen, and Nintendo and the Pokemon Company will not be happy with Game Freak to see that.