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Rob5VGC on 12 August 2019

FF7, P5, AL, and Ryza increase. Nice.



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RingoGaSuki on 12 August 2019
think-man said:
I thought the first new mainline Pokemon on the switch would be going nuts, are people not happy with this new title?

The #BringBackNationalDex catastrophe is big in Japan too, there is definitely going to be a backlash there too - if not a more visible one than in the west. I haven't seen any Japanese fans defending the decision like you see the minority doing in the west. The higher price for less content compared to earlier games is very unpopular.



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think-man on 13 August 2019

Public demos of Final Fantasy 7 will be at Gamescom. I wonder if it will help pre orders.



 

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MasonADC on 13 August 2019
RingoGaSuki said:
think-man said:
I thought the first new mainline Pokemon on the switch would be going nuts, are people not happy with this new title?

The #BringBackNationalDex catastrophe is big in Japan too, there is definitely going to be a backlash there too - if not a more visible one than in the west. I haven't seen any Japanese fans defending the decision like you see the minority doing in the west. The higher price for less content compared to earlier games is very unpopular.

That “catastrophe” will barely have an impact on sale in the first place



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zorg1000 on 13 August 2019
think-man said:
I thought the first new mainline Pokemon on the switch would be going nuts, are people not happy with this new title?

I think there is a combination of factors.

1. Pokemon has been on a steady decline for over a decade in Japan. Here are sales from GameDataLibrary.

Diamond/Pearl (2006)-5.83m

Black/White (2010)-5.49m

X/Y (2013)-4.46m

Sun/Moon (2016)-3.92m

2. The National Pokedex backlash is going to affect the "hardcore" crowd who pre-orders games months in advance more than it will with the average or casual fan.

3. COMG is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it comes predicting the performance of games.



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Barkley on 13 August 2019
Days Left Pokemon Let's Go Pokemon Sword/Shield Pokemon Sun/Moon Pokemon X/Y Pokemon US/UM Pokemon OR/AS
120 48 86 273 n/a n/a n/a
115 59 105 350 n/a n/a n/a
110 79 124 417 n/a n/a n/a
109 79 127 426 n/a n/a n/a
108 80 130 432 n/a n/a n/a
107 80 130 435 n/a n/a n/a
106 80 132 458 n/a n/a n/a
105 84 134 473 n/a n/a n/a
104 86 137 488 n/a n/a n/a
103 88 137 494 n/a n/a n/a
102 91 139 501 n/a n/a n/a
101 92 143 502 n/a n/a n/a
100 93 144 505 n/a n/a n/a
99 97 145 514 n/a n/a n/a
98 99 145 518 n/a n/a n/a
97 100 146 527 n/a n/a n/a
96 111 146 533 n/a n/a n/a
95 113 148 541 n/a n/a n/a
… … … … … … …
1 279 n/a 1718 2136 759 1533
First Week Sales (Famitsu) 664,198 n/a 1,905,107 2,096,050 1,199,814 1,534,593
First Week Ratio 2.37 n/a 1.11 0.98 1.58 1
LTD Sales (Famitsu) 1,565,955 (30/06/19) n/a 3,317,852 (27/08/17) 4,440,459 (28/09/14) 2,485,870 (30/06/19) 2,886,027 (04/10/15)


Kai_Mao on 13 August 2019
zorg1000 said:
think-man said:
I thought the first new mainline Pokemon on the switch would be going nuts, are people not happy with this new title?

I think there is a combination of factors.

1. Pokemon has been on a steady decline for over a decade in Japan. Here are sales from GameDataLibrary.

Diamond/Pearl (2006)-5.83m

Black/White (2010)-5.49m

X/Y (2013)-4.46m

Sun/Moon (2016)-3.92m

2. The National Pokedex backlash is going to affect the "hardcore" crowd who pre-orders games months in advance more than it will with the average or casual fan.

3. COMG is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it comes predicting the performance of games.

I also think the size of the userbase has to be somewhat of a factor, even if there are a few exceptions (i.e., Splatoon 2 and Smash Bros. Ultimate). By the time X/Y released in Japan, the userbase in Japan was about 5 million more compared to the size of the current Switch userbase (though I guess it depended on how many of the 3DS userbase at the time had the XL/2DS versions). That's still a lot of 3DS owners to attract to when X/Y was being hyped.

But I think regardless, Sw/Sh will be fine. If there is no upcoming sequel or third version of the games next year, I can see the games have some legs until the next huge Pokemon titles. As we have seen, all of the games from Gen 6 and 7 have sold respectively this past fiscal quarter. So its not like once the new generation is around, the previous Pokemon games just get dropped.



Jranation on 13 August 2019
zorg1000 said:
think-man said:
I thought the first new mainline Pokemon on the switch would be going nuts, are people not happy with this new title?

I think there is a combination of factors.

1. Pokemon has been on a steady decline for over a decade in Japan. Here are sales from GameDataLibrary.

Diamond/Pearl (2006)-5.83m

Black/White (2010)-5.49m

X/Y (2013)-4.46m

Sun/Moon (2016)-3.92m

2. The National Pokedex backlash is going to affect the "hardcore" crowd who pre-orders games months in advance more than it will with the average or casual fan.

3. COMG is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it comes predicting the performance of games.

I think it is going to be another Lets Go scenario. Where we will see a decline in Japan. But still manage to sell 10mil WW. And hopefully #2 will be a wake up call for Gamefreak. If they need more staff to fix it then they should hire more. 



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HylianSwordsman on 13 August 2019

I don't care if COMG is irrelevant, it's not that far off. Pokemon at a complete standstill like this has to have drawn Nintendo's attention. If Game Freak does nothing to fix this, there will be consequences for Game Freak. Bad consequences.