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spurgeonnintendoryan said:
What is this Puzzle and dragons 3DS game?

Also, I ...is anyone else? Surprise that Dragon Quest X.............. is doing so well on the chartz for Wii U? I am .


to answer both your questions Vita tv is a mirco console that hooks up to your tv so you can play vita and psn games on it haven't heard about it coming to the west and Puzzle and dragons is a RPG android game that you use puzzles to fight enemies 

im a bit surprised about dragon quest 



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Wow! I want 3DS TV NoWA! XD

I am surprised Nintendo has not done this since Vita TV was announced forever ago. But I guess they already have the Wii U gamepad. Still though....



benji232 said:
Mario 3D world 150k+ first week seems like a given at this point. Hopefully it will have some very long legs.

While on the one hand, it seems hard to believe Mario could do less than 150k, none of the numbers make this a given.

COMG/Media Create

NSMBU: 200 pts, 164k
NSMB2: 384 pts, 408k
3D Land: 262 pts, 343k
Galaxy 2: 313 pts, 340k

The best units per point ratio was 1309.  The worst was 820.  If 3D World matches the best ratio, it will need 115 points to hit 150k, or a 49 point increase tomorrow.  If it matches the worst, it will need 183 points, or a 117 point increase.

Also the only Wii U game to break 150k first week so far is NSMBU.  The next highest were Monster Hunter and Pikmin.  Monster Hunter was 75 pts, 106k.  Pikmin 74 pts, 93k.  While I still think 150k is possible, the data here does not indicate that.



Yakuzaice said:
benji232 said:
Mario 3D world 150k+ first week seems like a given at this point. Hopefully it will have some very long legs.

While on the one hand, it seems hard to believe Mario could do less than 150k, none of the numbers make this a given.

COMG/Media Create

NSMBU: 200 pts, 164k
NSMB2: 384 pts, 408k
3D Land: 262 pts, 343k
Galaxy 2: 313 pts, 340k

The best units per point ratio was 1309.  The worst was 820.  If 3D World matches the best ratio, it will need 115 points to hit 150k, or a 49 point increase tomorrow.  If it matches the worst, it will need 183 points, or a 117 point increase.

Also the only Wii U game to break 150k first week so far is NSMBU.  The next highest were Monster Hunter and Pikmin.  Monster Hunter was 75 pts, 106k.  Pikmin 74 pts, 93k.  While I still think 150k is possible, the data here does not indicate that.

Well, we have to consider a fact that a lot of people will probably just walk into stores and pick up the console AND the game itself at the same time which would explain the low number of preorders. And as you said, Mario just can not possible have a smaller FW in Japan then Pikmin3 and NSMBU... can it??? I mean even Mario Sunshine sold 320k FW in Japan.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

benji232 said:

Well, we have to consider a fact that a lot of people will probably just walk into stores and pick up the console AND the game itself at the same time which would explain the low number of preorders. And as you said, Mario just can not possible have a smaller FW in Japan then Pikmin3 and NSMBU... can it??? I mean even Mario Sunshine sold 320k FW in Japan.

None of those factors are unique to 3D World or the Wii U though.  I also can't see Wii U hardware sales the week of 3D World reaching that of the 3DS or Wii U on the release of 3D land/NSMB2/NSMBU (145k/230k/308k).  So the idea that 3D World will have a disproportionate boost due to new owners doesn't seem likely.



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Yakuzaice said:
benji232 said:

Well, we have to consider a fact that a lot of people will probably just walk into stores and pick up the console AND the game itself at the same time which would explain the low number of preorders. And as you said, Mario just can not possible have a smaller FW in Japan then Pikmin3 and NSMBU... can it??? I mean even Mario Sunshine sold 320k FW in Japan.

None of those factors are unique to 3D World or the Wii U though.  I also can't see Wii U hardware sales the week of 3D World reaching that of the 3DS or Wii U on the release of 3D land/NSMB2/NSMBU (145k/230k/308k).  So the idea that 3D World will have a disproportionate boost due to new owners doesn't seem likely.

It definetly won't push/need to push that much hardware for it to pull 150k+ FW in Japan. Let's assume that it will finish at around 80 points which would equate to a first week of around 100-110k. By then, you merely need another 40-50k new wiiU purchasers in order to achieve that 150k first week. Not 145k/230k/308k. 



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

benji232 said:

It definetly won't push/need to push that much hardware for it to pull 150k+ FW in Japan. Let's assume that it will finish at around 80 points which would equate to a first week of around 100-110k. By then, you merely need another 40-50k new wiiU purchasers in order to achieve that 150k first week. Not 145k/230k/308k. 

You're still acting like that is a unique factor for the Wii U.  Sure, if 3D World reaches 80 points and has the same units to points ratio as 3D Land, it would have a first week around 105k (though neither of these things are guaranteed).  However you are neglecting the fact that such a ratio was also achieved with 145k 3DS sales that week.  The hardware boost is already factored into the numbers listed for the last four Mario games.  If you removed the 80k increase the 3DS received that week (and assume none of the baseline purchasers also got 3D Land), you would have 1004 units per point.  If this were applied to 3D World it would give about 80k+hardware boost.



Yakuzaice said:
benji232 said:

It definetly won't push/need to push that much hardware for it to pull 150k+ FW in Japan. Let's assume that it will finish at around 80 points which would equate to a first week of around 100-110k. By then, you merely need another 40-50k new wiiU purchasers in order to achieve that 150k first week. Not 145k/230k/308k. 

You're still acting like that is a unique factor for the Wii U.  Sure, if 3D World reaches 80 points and has the same units to points ratio as 3D Land, it would have a first week around 105k (though neither of these things are guaranteed).  However you are neglecting the fact that such a ratio was also achieved with 145k 3DS sales that week.  The hardware boost is already factored into the numbers listed for the last four Mario games.  If you removed the 80k increase the 3DS received that week (and assume none of the baseline purchasers also got 3D Land), you would have 1004 units per point.  If this were applied to 3D World it would give about 80k+hardware boost.

bet bet bet!!!!!!! seriously do it! you'llhave your answers in a week



tbone51 said:

bet bet bet!!!!!!! seriously do it! you'llhave your answers in a week

I don't entirely disagree with the conclusion, I disagree with the process with which he reached it.



Yakuzaice said:
tbone51 said:

bet bet bet!!!!!!! seriously do it! you'llhave your answers in a week

I don't entirely disagree with the conclusion, I disagree with the process with which he reached it.


Oh i see *walks away disappointed!

 

I just hope the numbers are huge (150k+) but im looking at around 100k! We'll see soon though, im more interested in vita numbers tomorrow!