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Soleron on 29 April 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Soleron said:
JayWood2010 said:

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It doesnt matter if the hardware is slightly different like the X360 and PS3.  80-90% of the games are multiplat that doesnt really look different on whichever console you play it on.  The only games that looked different for the most part was exclusives.

The economics no longer make sense for exclusives that aren't first-party. Sony doesn't have the cash to throw around; the cost of porting is very very low now;  total dev costs are if anything higher; initial sales will be slower than PS3/360 and the small base of a single next-gen console just can't support an AAA title that wouldn't sell to a Halo-like fraction of the entire installed base.

Are there any announced third party PS4 exclusives? I'd be prepared to bet none will be released for two years.


FThey tend to get a lot of japanese 3rd party exclusives so I'm sure they will.  MSFT will likely be buying timed exclusives often in the beginning of the gen like they did with X360 which has proven to be a good strategy.  If sony can afford it they may try doing that as well.

I imagine the Japanese games will be PS3/PS4 dual titles for at least two years. No?

I don't think third parties will accept MS's money early this gen, they'll need the sales from PS3+360+PS4+720 combined so badly.



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Jaywood2010 on 29 April 2013
Soleron said:
JayWood2010 said:
Soleron said:
JayWood2010 said:

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It doesnt matter if the hardware is slightly different like the X360 and PS3.  80-90% of the games are multiplat that doesnt really look different on whichever console you play it on.  The only games that looked different for the most part was exclusives.

The economics no longer make sense for exclusives that aren't first-party. Sony doesn't have the cash to throw around; the cost of porting is very very low now;  total dev costs are if anything higher; initial sales will be slower than PS3/360 and the small base of a single next-gen console just can't support an AAA title that wouldn't sell to a Halo-like fraction of the entire installed base.

Are there any announced third party PS4 exclusives? I'd be prepared to bet none will be released for two years.


FThey tend to get a lot of japanese 3rd party exclusives so I'm sure they will.  MSFT will likely be buying timed exclusives often in the beginning of the gen like they did with X360 which has proven to be a good strategy.  If sony can afford it they may try doing that as well.

I imagine the Japanese games will be PS3/PS4 dual titles for at least two years. No?

I don't think third parties will accept MS's money early this gen, they'll need the sales from PS3+360+PS4+720 combined so badly.


Yeah i could see that with Japanese game.

And I don't think so.  Timed exclusives have become a big strategy for MSFT since the launch of X360.  I could see this continueing with new Ip's since they are a risk anyways.  MSFT pays the developer/publisher well I'm sure. But then again MSFT has a lot more 1st party developers now than they ever had before so maybe they will change that strategy a little bit, but I still think it qwill be a staple in their business in some shape or form.




       

the2real4mafol on 30 April 2013

What's so special about the achievements?, they already can add more in through patches.
The Xbox Live thing could be interesting
Video sharing? I guess we are even then, not too surprising that this would have it after PS4 has it



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Jaywood2010 on 30 April 2013
pezus said:
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pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
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Soleron said:
How will this be distinguishable from PS4 other than Halo and Gears? It has the same hardware, same games and now the same software features and goals.


What made the X360 and Ps3 different?

They will also have other exclusives that we don't know about.  Same goes to Ps4.

The hardware, blu-ray and looks. Now all of these factors are the same. Hardware is the same, blu-ray in both and they both look invisible at the moment


Not really.  It all came down to exclusives and business strategy that made a difference and yes blu ray.  Blue ray was more for movies than games though other than a few like Metal Gear whcih was exclusive once again.

What do you mean "not really"? The hardware wasn't even remotely the same.


It doesnt matter if the hardware is slightly different like the X360 and PS3.  80-90% of the games are multiplat that doesnt really look different on whichever console you play it on.  The only games that looked different for the most part was exclusives.

I didn't say the hardware was slightly different. I said it wasn't remotely the same. Similar in power, sure, but the hardware was very different. Games being similar has nothing to do with the hardware itself, only its power. The Cell in PS3 was unique, and the GPUs weren't even from the same manufacturer. This time around they will be sharing many more similarities.

The hardware was different but because the similarity in power they ended up the same barring a few exclusives and the OS system.  This time around we can expect the same thing.  They will have thos small differences like motion controls and business strategy but for the most part they will be the same like they was this generation.