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Is the anti - Nextbox sentiment on the Internet ridiculous?

Yes, MS has yet to even a... 154 42.42%
 
Maybe 60 16.53%
 
No it is completely deserved 147 40.50%
 
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BenVTrigger said:
richardhutnik said:
BenVTrigger said:

In all my years of gaming I have never seen the internet so collectively get together to degrade a console that we litteraly know nothing about.   It doesn't even make sense.

I see thread after thread and countless "news articles" doing nothing but bash a console that has never been shown, whose features have never been announced,  and whose games we've never seen.

I would understand it if the console had been announced already and people didn't like what was shown, but this is completely different.  And if MS delivers an incredible conference on May 21st with amazing games there is going to be some serious humble pie being dished out.  I don't even know if the Next Xbox will be my primary console next gen as some of the rumors do look unappealing to me but let's wait and see what they show first.

When Orthy ends up cheerleading always on, and bashes people for that not to be an option, and about everything that was shown is horrible, and specs leaked don't show themselves to be better than the PS4, why do you think the reaction isn't going to be negative?  As of now, outside of that really cool projector thing to the walls (which I personally don't have use for) exactly WHAT is being shown that makes the next Microsoft console a better choice than the PS4?  Is guaraanteed paying for online play an awesome feature?

If you don't want bashing, get information out there.  Otherwise, you get what is leaked, which is 8GB of slower RAM than the PS4, always on, elimination of used games, and requirement to have Kinect scan you when playing.  Think about it a minute here.  What does it say, when I have an XBox bias, and find the PS4 approach superior?  

No, the criticisms are complete justified.  What Microsoft needs to do is show otherwise and dispel these criticisms.... Particularly to do something to get the videogame journalists to stop pushing the inane 720 name, that comes out of the movie Real Steel.

Your using old info.  Both Vgleaks and Polygon have confirmed always online to play games is fake

Several recent reports have hinted at stronger than rumored hardware

Several reports such as Jeff Gurtsmen at Giant Bomb, Kotaku, amd multiple other sources have said MS have locked down major exclusives.

In other words people are only commenting on negatives.  No one is talking about the mountain of positive rumors that are now flooding in the closer we get to the reveal

Wait...so positive rumors being discussed and praised is ok but discussing negative rumors is ridiculous and unfounded? 

People are commenting on both the negatives AND  the positives. You just pay attention more to the negative comments just like everyone else pays attention more to the negative rumors. 



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The negativity is mostly based off of the rumors of the always online and blocking used game "features." If they are true then the negativity is 100% warranted. I will never buy a console that blocked used games regardless of how many quality games it has.

But, they are still just rumors for now. We'll have to wait and see next month during the big reveal if MS is indeed that foolish, somehow I don't think they will be.



BenVTrigger said:
richardhutnik said:
BenVTrigger said:

In all my years of gaming I have never seen the internet so collectively get together to degrade a console that we litteraly know nothing about.   It doesn't even make sense.

I see thread after thread and countless "news articles" doing nothing but bash a console that has never been shown, whose features have never been announced,  and whose games we've never seen.

I would understand it if the console had been announced already and people didn't like what was shown, but this is completely different.  And if MS delivers an incredible conference on May 21st with amazing games there is going to be some serious humble pie being dished out.  I don't even know if the Next Xbox will be my primary console next gen as some of the rumors do look unappealing to me but let's wait and see what they show first.

When Orthy ends up cheerleading always on, and bashes people for that not to be an option, and about everything that was shown is horrible, and specs leaked don't show themselves to be better than the PS4, why do you think the reaction isn't going to be negative?  As of now, outside of that really cool projector thing to the walls (which I personally don't have use for) exactly WHAT is being shown that makes the next Microsoft console a better choice than the PS4?  Is guaraanteed paying for online play an awesome feature?

If you don't want bashing, get information out there.  Otherwise, you get what is leaked, which is 8GB of slower RAM than the PS4, always on, elimination of used games, and requirement to have Kinect scan you when playing.  Think about it a minute here.  What does it say, when I have an XBox bias, and find the PS4 approach superior?  

No, the criticisms are complete justified.  What Microsoft needs to do is show otherwise and dispel these criticisms.... Particularly to do something to get the videogame journalists to stop pushing the inane 720 name, that comes out of the movie Real Steel.

Your using old info.  Both Vgleaks and Polygon have confirmed always online to play games is fake

Several recent reports have hinted at stronger than rumored hardware

Several reports such as Jeff Gurtsmen at Giant Bomb, Kotaku, amd multiple other sources have said MS have locked down major exclusives.

In other words people are only commenting on negatives.  No one is talking about the mountain of positive rumors that are now flooding in the closer we get to the reveal


You using old info too(look at my last few sentences in bold at the end of the text so you don't take the following stuff to serious)

The "major"(we don't know crap about the game and it is rumored to use an outdated engine and not the FB3 from EA) locked down Exclusive is probably the Respawn Entertainment Game aka the CoD of the NextGen
This game has always online and is going to be a Microsoft Exclusive.

One of our sources tells us that Respawn's futuristic shooter will be designed for multiplayer. In fact, they say, the game is always-online.

Weird the source of Kotaku is saying that...But how does that work if the NextBox isn't always Online or does support that?;)
Are sources having different information?Why are more sources talking about Always Online and now even one of your major exclusives is using it?;)
It was rumored a long time a game from EA is Microsoft Exclusive and this is it

Next negative rumors
Microsoft is HAVING HARD PROBLEMS with their console
Sony is far ahead in development and their console is far better planned.
A lot of 1st Party games got cancelled cause they didn't turn out that great and Microsoft now has to BRIBE EVERYONE again so they get any games at all while Sony has millions of new IPs from their AAAAAAAA Studios coming.
How can anyone support that?Microsoft is again on the way to destroy gaming with their money cause they screwed up and didn't take it (Sony) serious.
Sony has the better console and their studios are working hard - Everything is far more advanced and more polished as it looks right now.Sony is ready.
Sony is putting so much effort in it.

Next rumor of that thread on this site here where they talk about securing a major exclusive
On Page 3 i believe someone(someone with Wiz in his name) quoted a Neogaf source/post saying their BetaKits are overheating
neogaf is getting some interesting posts :

"A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

We know Microsoft had problems with overheating on their 360.
I hope this rumor spreads cause who wants another console with 80% failure rate?They probably tried to upgrade to compete with the PS4 but failed hard in their 1st tries.At the end it will secure quality cause i don't want another faked competition...Yeah we sold 76 Million Units....cause everyone has like 10 360s LOL
Sony obviously catched them off guard cause even their own studios didn't know they have 8GB RAM of the superior kind so of course Microsoft couldn't know about it either.And now they have problems to adapt.

So what do we have from the new rumors
Some even from YOUR beloved Kotaku with pretty reliable sources

A new Shooter Franchise that REQUIRES ALWAYS ONLINE exclusive for Microsoft -   Check      Positive/Negative( i don't like FPS with outdated engines cause of PC and Battlefield 4 ;))
Development is far behind Sony and they try to catch up but have insane problems - check    Negative
Microsoft has no own games and tries to buy stuff AGAIN - check                                                  Negative

Looks like Microsoft tries to survive again with Halo,excuses,their money and the popular casual shooter of the Gen.

YEAH WE SHOULD TOTALLY  LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXTBOX  if we look at the Information we HAVE RIGHT NOW while Microsoft isn't denying anything of that.
Hell even if 80% of all that turns out to be wrong the damage is done cause Microsoft isn't saying and denying anything while Sony is getting positive news EVERY DAY.


Sony only has a perfectly running console with cool features,better online system(not even a discussion about it cause Sony will only do what they already do better than Microsoft even better) and tons of games from their best studios prepared while every 3rd Party and Indie Developer is talking good about them.
Of course we shouldn't look forward to that(Sony) and rather to a console that is the worst piece ever in terms of console,games and support as it looks RIGHT NOW.

Oh and of course -  How can anyone defend that?
RIGHT NOW you have to be Sony/PS4 Pro cause it actually is in every way superior.Or do those rumors sound cool?PS4 has only good rumors and facts.
Why not accept that?So much hate?Or is Halo so important to you?

And lol if someone is banning me cause it is the truth you can't accept.
Think about it.



VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
richardhutnik said:
BenVTrigger said:

In all my years of gaming I have never seen the internet so collectively get together to degrade a console that we litteraly know nothing about.   It doesn't even make sense.

I see thread after thread and countless "news articles" doing nothing but bash a console that has never been shown, whose features have never been announced,  and whose games we've never seen.

I would understand it if the console had been announced already and people didn't like what was shown, but this is completely different.  And if MS delivers an incredible conference on May 21st with amazing games there is going to be some serious humble pie being dished out.  I don't even know if the Next Xbox will be my primary console next gen as some of the rumors do look unappealing to me but let's wait and see what they show first.

When Orthy ends up cheerleading always on, and bashes people for that not to be an option, and about everything that was shown is horrible, and specs leaked don't show themselves to be better than the PS4, why do you think the reaction isn't going to be negative?  As of now, outside of that really cool projector thing to the walls (which I personally don't have use for) exactly WHAT is being shown that makes the next Microsoft console a better choice than the PS4?  Is guaraanteed paying for online play an awesome feature?

If you don't want bashing, get information out there.  Otherwise, you get what is leaked, which is 8GB of slower RAM than the PS4, always on, elimination of used games, and requirement to have Kinect scan you when playing.  Think about it a minute here.  What does it say, when I have an XBox bias, and find the PS4 approach superior?  

No, the criticisms are complete justified.  What Microsoft needs to do is show otherwise and dispel these criticisms.... Particularly to do something to get the videogame journalists to stop pushing the inane 720 name, that comes out of the movie Real Steel.

Your using old info.  Both Vgleaks and Polygon have confirmed always online to play games is fake

Several recent reports have hinted at stronger than rumored hardware

Several reports such as Jeff Gurtsmen at Giant Bomb, Kotaku, amd multiple other sources have said MS have locked down major exclusives.

In other words people are only commenting on negatives.  No one is talking about the mountain of positive rumors that are now flooding in the closer we get to the reveal

Wait...so positive rumors being discussed and praised is ok but discussing negative rumors is ridiculous and unfounded? 

People are commenting on both the negatives AND  the positives. You just pay attention more to the negative comments just like everyone else pays attention more to the negative rumors. 

No both should be taken with a grain of salt.  Thats my point

Many people are focusing on the negatives and forming opinions without paying attention to any positives.  In other words not everything we are hearing is bad but either way wait till the 21st before you either damn / praise MS.



BenVTrigger said:
VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
richardhutnik said:
BenVTrigger said:

In all my years of gaming I have never seen the internet so collectively get together to degrade a console that we litteraly know nothing about.   It doesn't even make sense.

I see thread after thread and countless "news articles" doing nothing but bash a console that has never been shown, whose features have never been announced,  and whose games we've never seen.

I would understand it if the console had been announced already and people didn't like what was shown, but this is completely different.  And if MS delivers an incredible conference on May 21st with amazing games there is going to be some serious humble pie being dished out.  I don't even know if the Next Xbox will be my primary console next gen as some of the rumors do look unappealing to me but let's wait and see what they show first.

When Orthy ends up cheerleading always on, and bashes people for that not to be an option, and about everything that was shown is horrible, and specs leaked don't show themselves to be better than the PS4, why do you think the reaction isn't going to be negative?  As of now, outside of that really cool projector thing to the walls (which I personally don't have use for) exactly WHAT is being shown that makes the next Microsoft console a better choice than the PS4?  Is guaraanteed paying for online play an awesome feature?

If you don't want bashing, get information out there.  Otherwise, you get what is leaked, which is 8GB of slower RAM than the PS4, always on, elimination of used games, and requirement to have Kinect scan you when playing.  Think about it a minute here.  What does it say, when I have an XBox bias, and find the PS4 approach superior?  

No, the criticisms are complete justified.  What Microsoft needs to do is show otherwise and dispel these criticisms.... Particularly to do something to get the videogame journalists to stop pushing the inane 720 name, that comes out of the movie Real Steel.

Your using old info.  Both Vgleaks and Polygon have confirmed always online to play games is fake

Several recent reports have hinted at stronger than rumored hardware

Several reports such as Jeff Gurtsmen at Giant Bomb, Kotaku, amd multiple other sources have said MS have locked down major exclusives.

In other words people are only commenting on negatives.  No one is talking about the mountain of positive rumors that are now flooding in the closer we get to the reveal

Wait...so positive rumors being discussed and praised is ok but discussing negative rumors is ridiculous and unfounded? 

People are commenting on both the negatives AND  the positives. You just pay attention more to the negative comments just like everyone else pays attention more to the negative rumors. 

No both should be taken with a grain of salt.  Thats my point

Many people are focusing on the negatives and forming opinions without paying attention to any positives.  In other words not everything we are hearing is bad but either way wait till the 21st before you either damn / praise MS.

I agree. Negative news is too tempting to ignore though. There's no problem is stating how much you would hate if some these things ended up being true though. 



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Truly one of the greatest conspiracies to ever be conspired.



VGKing said:
Nsanity said:
Apparently, its ok for Sony to pay for 3rd party games as well as exclusive content, but not Microsoft.

No, its horrible when both do it. Microsoft started this game, its was only a matter of time until Sony started playing.

lol @ "MS started it". Looks like someone missed the entire PS2 generation.



VGKing said:
Nsanity said:
Apparently, its ok for Sony to pay for 3rd party games as well as exclusive content, but not Microsoft.

No, its horrible when both do it. Microsoft started this game, its was only a matter of time until Sony started playing.

Started? GTA was a timed exclusive on the PS2.



Nsanity said:
VGKing said:
Nsanity said:
Apparently, its ok for Sony to pay for 3rd party games as well as exclusive content, but not Microsoft.

No, its horrible when both do it. Microsoft started this game, its was only a matter of time until Sony started playing.

Started? GTA was a timed exclusive on the PS2.

Xbox didn't even exist yet. They were just continuing what they were doing with the PS1.

It's not like Sony payed to not put GTA on Nintendo consoles, they didn't have to. Only when Microsoft went after that Playstation audience did these pissing contests start. Not saying Sony hasn't done this in the past, I'm sure they have. Microsofts money-hatting is better documented.



Nsanity said:
VGKing said:
Nsanity said:
Apparently, its ok for Sony to pay for 3rd party games as well as exclusive content, but not Microsoft.

No, its horrible when both do it. Microsoft started this game, its was only a matter of time until Sony started playing.

Started? GTA was a timed exclusive on the PS2.

in b4 bububu that was diffrent

oops too late