End of the day mate, you're spot on with the OP and I won't mince my words :D

If we even need to debate if it made a comeback or not - Then it obviously didn't!

A "comeback" should not be open to question or need answering...by it's nature, where on earth has there ever been a comeback that needed explaining or could be questioned, a "comeback" is visual, it's obvious.

THIS ISN'T!!!!!!

So stand up for yourself and unload :p your evidence in the OP is more compelling than any crap after it!

Very good point! A comeback shouldn't be something debatable, because it's very obvious when one takes place. Steadily increasing sales isn't a comeback. A sudden surge in sales is - if it can be maintained.

I am standing up for myself; Farsala bowed out of the discussion in a graceful way, so there is no need to keep going after him. He didn't leave in a bad manner, so why not acknowledge that? =)

Very good point! A comeback shouldn't be something debatable, because it's very obvious when one takes place. Steadily increasing sales isn't a comeback. A sudden surge in sales is - if it can be maintained.

I am standing up for myself; Farsala bowed out of the discussion in a graceful way, so there is no need to keep going after him. He didn't leave in a bad manner, so why not acknowledge that? =)

Did the SNES launch to an already established Gensis gap of ~7M?  Doubt it, considering the Genesis took 10 years to sell ~40M units and sales only really took off around the SNES launched.  Was the SNES ~$200 more than the Genesis?  Impossible, since the SNES launched for $200.  Did the SNES suffer from bad gaming press and a negative image from the general gaming public?  Nah.  Only Sega fans really bashed it.  Did it get poor 1st party and 3rd party support for the first 2 years?  Nope, it received great support from the get go.  Not exactly the same situation, at all.

Exactly (beat me to it).

And the SNES/Super Famicom launched two full years after the Genesis/Mega Drive.

No offense intended mate, I didn't mean literally. Just iterating that you have made a very good OP. It stands on it's own and you should be proud of it...lol that sounds ridiculous but you know what I mean :)

Of course people are going to debate this.  Not everyone shares the same opinion.  And even if the PS3 was at 115M right now, you would still have 360 and Nintendo fans talking about how it doesn't matter, since Sony lost all that money, so it's not really a comeback.  Therefore, they can never claim victory or comeback for this gen.  This was, of course, the topic of another PS3 didn't have a comeback thread. 

Did the SNES launch to an already established Gensis gap of ~7M?  Doubt it, considering the Genesis took 10 years to sell ~40M units and sales only really took off around the SNES launch.  Was the SNES ~$200 more than the Genesis?  Impossible, since the SNES launched for $200.  Did the SNES suffer from bad gaming press and a negative image from the general gaming public?  Nah.  Only Sega fans really bashed it.  Did it get poor 1st party and 3rd party support for the first 2 years?  Nope, it received great support from the get go.  Not exactly the same situation, at all.

Did the SNES launch to an already established Gensis gap of ~7M?  Doubt it, considering the Genesis took 10 years to sell ~40M units and sales only really took off around the SNES launch.  Was the SNES ~$200 more than the Genesis?  Impossible, since the SNES launched for $200.  Did the SNES suffer from bad gaming press and a negative image from the general gaming public?  Nah.  Only Sega fans really bashed it.  Did it get poor 1st party and 3rd party support for the first 2 years?  Nope, it received great support from the get go.  Not exactly the same situation, at all.

Actually you're not far off about the price thing. In the UK the genesis was £129.99 and the SNES was £169.99, that's a £50 difference on a console that (back in those days) only really kids bought so that £50 is much more relevent. Also, SNES games were always at least £10 more than Genesis and usually £20 more in the case of ones with FX chips in them.

Generally it was difficult to get cut price games back then and you just had to pay the £35-£45 for a genesis game and £45-£60 for a SNES game.

So I think the price point is covered at least.

On the side of "bashing" or whatever you cool kids call it these days :) well, that's debateable. The "bashing" was only apparent on the internet if you were already a Sony fan and felt defensive as so many did clogging up the internet in 2007 with their "list of games that are going to be released at some point in the future to make themselves feel better about the sales"...MGS4 just you wait! LBP just you wait! Haze just you wait! Heavenly Sword just you wait!

No, I'm sorry in the physical world nobody had really drawn any lines in the sand by that point at all!

If anything, there was more talk of the Xbox 360 being dropped by MS, in fact most people assumed that MS may well do just that even back in 2006-2007 as they had with the original Xbox. I remember it being discussed on these very forums numerous times. The RROD threads were beyond a joke, and made any anti-Sony thread pale into insignificance, it got so bad that mods had to request that all RROD threads go in a single thread. There was troll after troll (Sony) all reporting "news" about RROD with an obvious agenda.

If anything, it's Microsoft in general that has made an astonishing comeback, or possibly Nintendo with the Wii.

How the hell can you seriously say the PS3 has made a massive comeback, it was never at risk of being discontinued, it was never selling abysmally like the Vita is for any length of time. Sure it's sales weren't great or even good, but it had a high price and when the price of admission came into reach, the loyal PS2/PS1 fanbase jumped on it. Now if the Vita started selling near the 3DS that WOULD be a comeback and a bloody respectable one too, obviously.

You see, there wasn't a comeback because it had all the tools and expectations to get where it's got, it had all the trump cards, nearly fucked it, but then came back to do quite well. It's certainly not doing amazingly - even now. It's done quite well sure.

"Comeback" should be reserved for something incredible, some fantastic return to glory. If you're trying to tell me the PS3 has made a comeback in those terms I can only laugh at such a notion being true. Because it damn well ain't!

This is the clincher, how come there has been a thread roughly every 2 weeks since the release of the PS3 talking about when it  will "overtake the Xbox 360". As if it's a given that it will, and it's only been the last couple of years where the Sony fans who aren't die hards have said "...uhhh actually never". Before then there was eternal assumption that it was just a matter of time.

So how can a "comeback" be a comeback when everyone already knew it was going there? The comeback is just a return to form, sales haven't sky rocketed to stratospheric levels like the Wii? It didn't come from a disadvantaged situation like RROD or poor brand respect (Microsoft).

It game from gaming gold, you know the most successfull console ever to be released in the history of mankind and you're saying where it's at now is a comeback!?

:)

/Rant

:D

(I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, I concede :P but this is a passionate post that I believe in thinking as I go along, hope it's not interprested rudlely, more of an aggressive post to ruffle up some opinion :))