Lol wow, clearly you are not capable of understaing the point here. I have not once attempted to address the existence of God in a positive or negative way.

All I did was debunk your analogy i.e. fanhood of a video game console manufacturer is equal to worshipping a deity.

Way to go off on a tangential argument I never made. Lol, learn to read more carefully bro.

Don't speak for me, it's insulting.

Fanboyism is literally worship.  It is its own type of worship, expressed differently than worship of a powerful God, but it is still worship.  Brain science has shown that.  The same impulses that go into worshipping God, go into worshipping a videogame character, even if it has some different appearance in how it is expressed.

Groan. I can't be arsed watching a 1 hour youtube going over one of a various version of how the universe *might* have come into existence without an act of will. So which particular version of the no-God creation myth does that video cover? A plausible suggestion does not qualify the creation of the universe to be crossed out.

Life from non-life: a liquid medium + a base element capable of making polymeric type compounds, e.g. carbon + environmental conditions able to facilitate the formation of complex molecules capable of self replication, such as geothermal vents. It's not hard, it just takes time. In fact it's so easy that current theory suggests life is almost a guaranteed outcome whenever those conditions exist for a long enough period of time. It's certainly got a lot more going for it than the hypothetical musings about how the universe got started.

I feel sorry for those hard working athiests in their ultimately futile attempts to preach atheism. God exists: they are pushing shit up hill. God doesn't exist: there are so many people in the world who are otherwise completely sane and normal who have God affirming spiritual / religious experiences, that billions of people are willing to accept their anecdotes at face value and thus join religious communities. All the, ultimately weak, "you can't disprove a negative" argumentation in the world is going to be meaningless to those who's own personal experiences are absolute proof (to them) of a spiritual existince and the presence of the divine. I'm not talking of the charlatans who are out to make millions from gullible people, I'm talking about every day people who have ordinary jobs and ordinary lives (like some of my friends and family members) who have non-chemically enhanced spiritual experiences on a regular basis (not seeing ghosts and crap like that), who have no desire to make anything out of their experiences.

If perception is reality, then the perception of things spiritual is reality. To address individual spiritual experience you need to provide solid proof that those experiences have a non-spiritual cause. You can't just surmise that it's stuff going on in the brain.

"Religion does not answer any questions dude. That's philosophy not theology." Ha Ha! Theology pre-dates philosophy by centuries, and philosophy has its origins in theology. People think our modern western culture and philosophy originates from ancient Greek and Roman culture, and significantly Greek philosophy (which was never separated from spirituality). But ancient Greek and Roman culture owes much of it's origins to the even more ancient Jewish culture. So it is impossible to divorce theology from philosophy. And of course all of the Eastern philosophies are grounded in theology too.

All of our Western laws, can be traced back to the morals and 10 commandments of the Old Testament. To try to separate the influence of theology from modern civilisation is a pointless exercise in futility. In effect the Old Testament provided the answers for how to build a modern Western civilisation, and since then it's been a mater of refinement and rejeuvenation of those basic building block. Eastern civilisation got it's start from the even more ancient Hindu, and then Buddhist, origins. The history of civilisation IS the history of religion.

- Cool, your choice to remain ignorant.

- Yep, I'll just take your word on it?

- That is entirely irrelevant. There is a fundamental difference between an objective rationalization, and one from the standpoint of a God. One makes quite an assumption. In other words, philo leaves open the theological argument whereas theo removes any other argument from consideration.

Worship = worship? Duh.

You're missing the point again and again. No one worships a fucking console manufacturer. 

Fanhood != worship.

End of.

I think he crawled up Justin Bieber's ass and died...

There is no god.

Except you are wrong and have no evidence to the contrary.  As I posted before, scientific research shows that devotion to certain brands is a religious experience.  Brands like Apple, Harley Davison, and others (say consoles) do generate religious response and worship:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=fanboys+worship+religion&oq=fanboys+worship+religion&gs_l=hp.3...37471.41243.2.41796.24.23.0.0.0.0.198.1943.18j5.23.0...0.0...1c.1.9.psy-ab.VI_9HUSNDkc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45512109,d.dmg&fp=d78f862414922e23&biw=1331&bih=624

There is a simple link to the two.  Yes, people do worship the makers of certain electronic equipment, PARTICULARLY consoles.  Look at what goes into prelaunch of consoles, with people camping out DAYS to get one, the fact people dress up as certain characters, practice certain rituals, and also end up forming fellowships around electronic devices on here.  People sing praises, evangelize people for games, and get into fanboy wars that resembles religious or political discussions.

Fanhood alone isn't worship, but the stronger it gets, the MUCH closer it gets to being religious and showing worship.  Your disagreeing with it, is your taking offense at religion for some reason.  

Edit: Some more articles on this:

http://www.gamingupdate.com/articles/100/The-Truth-Behind-the-Fanboy-and-Why-They-Exist

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-perreault/worshipping-final-fantasy-video-games_b_1652829.html

Star Wars as religion: http://www.jedichurch.org/  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism

Star Trek as religion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekkie

About ANYTHING can generate religious worship for it.  One term used to describe this, by the way, is idolotry.

That link refers me to a google search, not a source.

Futhermore, from one of the first websites listed - "The cult-like worship of Apple now has some basis in pseudoscientific fact."

I've already stated that fanboyism can be religious, but fanhood isn't.

Again, fanhood != worship. If you want to state that fanboyism = worship, I'm good with that.

PS: There seems to be only discussion of Apple, not video game consoles - just to further my position.

Check my update to my post with more links.  Fanboyism is a more extreme form of fanhood, becaause fanboyism comes out of fanhood for something.  Such depends on the impact the said item has on a person's life.  Things like Star Trek have had a larger impact than say Pong.  

And with fanboyism, videogame consoles are particularly connected to generating a very strong emotional attachment by their nature, thus fanboys who are the religious extreme form of fandom.