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One thing you might have noticed is that just like the PSP, there's very little shovelware on the Vita.  Whether the games are good or not, people seeing the same games constantly on shelves day in and day out is one reason that the Vita isn't selling, aside from the higher price.  I'm surprised that Sony hasn't thought about this, but I think it's a pretty good idea.

Sony should have one development studio that can think of and develop shovelware titles quickly.  Now branding them as "Sony" would obviously have people look on the company poorly as when a first party title is released you expect quality, but if people keep buying shovelware, they'd stop buying first party, so what Sony needs to do is just create multiple "third parties" being Sony funded and profit ultimately goes back to Sony, without Sony actually being the publisher or developer. 

If they were to develop these titles all at once and ship them at the same time it'd cut down on shipping costs, also ship them along with good games as well so people won't just see a bunch of crap.  They also wouldn't need to ship too many to each location as they're shovelware titles to make more games appear on shelves.  When people have the perceptive that the Vita has more games, which in this case it does, people would be more willing to buy the system and the games they're interested in.  Most people won't buy the shovelware titles which is why you don't need to ship as many copies, but on the chance that people do, they could just ship more.

 As good as the DS and 3DS are, they have "A LOT" of shovelware and I think the Vita has a better library of good games than the 3DS has, but it has all that shovelware around giving the perceptive that it's getting more support, because it is.  Shoveware or not, it's support.

Good idea?   I should probably take Andrew House's position  Let him keep the title and be the face of SCE to the people, but behind the scenes I run the show.



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PSP sold so well because of emulators and piracy. I'm sticking to this defense after seeing PSP's SW sales.  How else do explain a hand held that sold almost 80m in HW and doesn't even have one 10m seller?

I highly doubt PSV trumps 3DS in quality software.  Compare 3DS retail and eshop titles to PSV retail and eshop.  I believe 3DS trumps PSV.  PSV has some good games but apparently not too many people are noticing.



Neh.. Sony needs quality software titles aimed at girls, women and childeren.. Right now the entire Vita is aimed at young males who are also the people with the better smartphones, tablets and consoles making them actually just the people with no need to buy a Vita..



 

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kupomogli said:

 As good as the DS and 3DS are, they have "A LOT" of shovelware and I think the Vita has a better library of good games than the 3DS has, but it has all that shovelware around giving the perceptive that it's getting more support, because it is.

What I take away from this is that you think the 3DS is outselling the Vita because it has more shovelware.

Oh boy.



the_dengle said:
kupomogli said:

 As good as the DS and 3DS are, they have "A LOT" of shovelware and I think the Vita has a better library of good games than the 3DS has, but it has all that shovelware around giving the perceptive that it's getting more support, because it is.

What I take away from this is that you think the 3DS is outselling the Vita because it has more shovelware.

Oh boy.

System leader always has more shovelware.  Check the NES, Gameboy, SNES/Genesis, PS1, PS2, DS, Wii, 3DS off on that.



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sethnintendo said:

PSP sold so well because of emulators. I'm sticking to this defense after seeing PSP's SW sales.  How else do explain a hand held that sold almost 80m in HW and doesn't even have 1 10m seller?

I highly doubt PSV trumps 3DS in quality software.  Compare 3DS retail and eshop titles to PSV retail and eshop.  I believe 3DS trumps PSV.  PSV has some good games but apparently not too many people are noticing.


But the Vita has Persona 4 Golden therefore it's library is better that the 3DS' by default! Haha Anyways I agree 3DS has more quality games but I do believe Vita has higher quality games just not enought to balance out.

In regards to the OP I think your right that it needs a constant flow of games, good or bad. A GTA: SA Stories would really help the Vita sales too.



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sethnintendo said:
the_dengle said:
kupomogli said:

 As good as the DS and 3DS are, they have "A LOT" of shovelware and I think the Vita has a better library of good games than the 3DS has, but it has all that shovelware around giving the perceptive that it's getting more support, because it is.

What I take away from this is that you think the 3DS is outselling the Vita because it has more shovelware.

Oh boy.

System leader always has more shovelware.  Check the NES, Gameboy, SNES/Genesis, PS1, PS2, DS, Wii, 3DS off on that.

Of course. The market leader will attract more games, good and bad. But throwing bad games at a console will not make it sell much better. I don't think people are going to suddenly realize that the Vita has some great games they want to play if it gets a few more 'Black Ops Declassified's; if anything, the console's reputation would suffer as it went from 'Vita has no games' to 'Vita has a lot of shovelware and not much else.'

What the Vita needs are games that appeal to broader audiences. At the moment its best titles are a bit too niche to be real system-sellers.

And a global price cut wouldn't hurt, either.



the_dengle said:
sethnintendo said:
the_dengle said:
kupomogli said:

 As good as the DS and 3DS are, they have "A LOT" of shovelware and I think the Vita has a better library of good games than the 3DS has, but it has all that shovelware around giving the perceptive that it's getting more support, because it is.

What I take away from this is that you think the 3DS is outselling the Vita because it has more shovelware.

Oh boy.

System leader always has more shovelware.  Check the NES, Gameboy, SNES/Genesis, PS1, PS2, DS, Wii, 3DS off on that.

Of course. The market leader will attract more games, good and bad. But throwing bad games at a console will not make it sell much better. I don't think people are going to suddenly realize that the Vita has some great games they want to play if it gets a few more 'Black Ops Declassified's; if anything, the console's reputation would suffer as it went from 'Vita has no games' to 'Vita has a lot of shovelware and not much else.'

What the Vita needs are games that appeal to broader audiences. At the moment its best titles are a bit too niche to be real system-sellers.

And a global price cut wouldn't hurt, either.

Problem is Sony marketed the PSV as a home console on the go experience.  However, Sony had very little to offer for a hand held consoles and was hoping for more 3rd party support.  Reminds me back in the early 3DS days when developers were abandoning ship due to low 3DS sales.  The problem Sony faces is that most of their IPs are home console IPs and don't translate well for a hand held game.  If Sony was smart then they would of had an exclusive GTA, MH, GT and something else that moves hand helds in the first year of launch.