This thread and others like it have a lot of PS4 fans in them.

Sony fans will take any good reason to not take the nextbox.. Even pretending they cared about it a moment.. They should just say ' I love Sony so I buy a PS4' but instead of they prefer spending time finding reasons why not to get a nextbox and post it.. Console wars......Console wars never change :s

and this is what's worrying for me; instead of just trying to debunk the rumor it seems the common narrative is "For me, Xbox 360 is almost an online expirience" or other quotes from this field. as a person who's been gaming quite sometime before the online infrastructure became the giant it is today for gaming, that and a huge fan of RPG's this  seems like a huge middle finger to me(and to others like me) who vaule the singleplayer of a game(specailly those who don't even have and online component) and those who's internet is not as great to run by these standards.(if these rumor are to be true)

Sad, Just sad.

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They also have a lot of xbox fans in them..what's your point?

I swear why are some so damn defensive about this (not talking just to you)...when such bad rumors keep popping up of similar nature it's obvious it will cause some concerns. Console loyality has jack shit to do with it. If these rumors become true it will affect everyone

And here's the difference between this OP and my thread (and others) yesterday. They focused on the fact that he heard the same thing...this OP is by OXM trying to spin all the negativity as if it's something conducted mainly by PS4 fans. This is nonsense. This same leaker talked about always online, around 500 price point + 300 with payments etc etc and say he has not heard anything negative about the nextbox so far. I mean really? 

Let's all HOPE all these rumors are not true..we are consumers first and foremost

So, It's Ok to doom vita, PS3, Wii-u, but when people have legitimate worries about next xbox it's not ok? Got ya, some serious hypocritical posters here.

And they have a lot ox xbox fans, and the sony threads also have a lot of xbox fans, what's the issue?

We've already had to have moderator action in this thread, folks. Let's please not have to lock it.

Other than the always online feature, I do agree that none of the rumors are "bad." But honestly, i am still going to wait until it's announced before I judge the 720. Who knows, by some crazy black magic the always online feature might some how be a good thing.

why would he say anything negative he has games to sell on this system. sigh..... im about burned out on this subject to the point i cant help but to be cynical anymore.