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walsufnir on 03 April 2013
enditall727 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
A similar machine tech wise is not gonna work in MS's favor. they will need a lower price to compete. 199 $ + 2 year subscription ?


ehm... MS can easily do that, but Sony can't. Sony might have problems if there are 2 nearly identical consoles on the market again. One is $299 and one is $399.

But this is the way a lot of PS3 fans think. They base their arguments on the assumption that the PS4 will sell automatically better than the next Xbox if both are the same and priced the same.

As if the 76 million people who bought a 360 would have preferred the PS3 if they only could afford it. You never consider that people bought the 360 over the PS3, just because they like it better.

In fact in 2011 the average pricepoint for a 360 was higher than the average pricepoint for a PS3 in NA according to NPD.

it will

 

the 720 is going to get outsold HARD if they launch at the same price and at the same time worldwide

 

you can quote me on it


And a perfect example for his statement ;) I like VGC :)



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enditall727 on 03 April 2013
walsufnir said:
enditall727 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
A similar machine tech wise is not gonna work in MS's favor. they will need a lower price to compete. 199 $ + 2 year subscription ?


ehm... MS can easily do that, but Sony can't. Sony might have problems if there are 2 nearly identical consoles on the market again. One is $299 and one is $399.

But this is the way a lot of PS3 fans think. They base their arguments on the assumption that the PS4 will sell automatically better than the next Xbox if both are the same and priced the same.

As if the 76 million people who bought a 360 would have preferred the PS3 if they only could afford it. You never consider that people bought the 360 over the PS3, just because they like it better.

In fact in 2011 the average pricepoint for a 360 was higher than the average pricepoint for a PS3 in NA according to NPD.

it will

 

the 720 is going to get outsold HARD if they launch at the same price and at the same time worldwide

 

you can quote me on it


And a perfect example for his statement ;) I like VGC :)


yezzir

:)



fillet on 03 April 2013
DietSoap said:
I thought it went without saying we were talking about the rumour, I hardly claim that Microsoft actually unveiled anything yet.


You stated your opinion as fact. Are you someone who knowngly states a rumour as a fact? That is called a troll and that is what you're doing.

Ubisoft's statement should be music to anyone's ears, of course it's not an absolute claim in performance but more power in a new gaming console can only be a good thing for people who like gaming.

It sounds like you just want it to fail?



JoeFlex on 03 April 2013

Well I plan to get both, but they better have differentiated software from first/second party, otherwise I'll just get one.



fillet on 03 April 2013
Turkish said:
Tabular said:
So... does 50% less GPU performance equal being aligned?


Probably, it'll have the same amount of ram and a similar cpu, the gpu will be weaker, Durango is said to have 12 CUs while PS4 has 18 unified CUs. Durango has 2 CUs less than HD7790, PS4 has 2 CUs less than HD7870.


Pretty sure that latest rumour you've based your post on is a load of rubbish, purely because the other information in the rumour is clearly written by an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about and is Sony slanted in it's writing style. People who unveil technical rumours in that way aren't to be trusted from past experience.



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walsufnir on 03 April 2013
fillet said:
DietSoap said:
I thought it went without saying we were talking about the rumour, I hardly claim that Microsoft actually unveiled anything yet.


You stated your opinion as fact. Are you someone who knowngly states a rumour as a fact? That is called a troll and that is what you're doing.

Ubisoft's statement should be music to anyone's ears, of course it's not an absolute claim in performance but more power in a new gaming console can only be a good thing for people who like gaming.

It sounds like you just want it to fail?

According to VGKing (I think it was him...) NOBODY wants the NextBox to fail :)



fillet on 03 April 2013
walsufnir said:
fillet said:
DietSoap said:
I thought it went without saying we were talking about the rumour, I hardly claim that Microsoft actually unveiled anything yet.


You stated your opinion as fact. Are you someone who knowngly states a rumour as a fact? That is called a troll and that is what you're doing.

Ubisoft's statement should be music to anyone's ears, of course it's not an absolute claim in performance but more power in a new gaming console can only be a good thing for people who like gaming.

It sounds like you just want it to fail?

According to VGKing (I think it was him...) NOBODY wants the NextBox to fail :)

Excuse me while I spit out my tea in shock and try to take that comment seriously ;) hehe



BlueFalcon on 03 April 2013
DietSoap said:
Closer to 2/3rds the performance if we're going to be fair.

or another way of stating the same thing is PS4's GPU is rumored to be 50% faster than the next Xbox's. The rumored specs point to HD7770 level while PS4's specs are at least at HD7850 2GB level:

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-im-test/3/



walsufnir on 03 April 2013
fillet said:
walsufnir said:
fillet said:
DietSoap said:
I thought it went without saying we were talking about the rumour, I hardly claim that Microsoft actually unveiled anything yet.


You stated your opinion as fact. Are you someone who knowngly states a rumour as a fact? That is called a troll and that is what you're doing.

Ubisoft's statement should be music to anyone's ears, of course it's not an absolute claim in performance but more power in a new gaming console can only be a good thing for people who like gaming.

It sounds like you just want it to fail?

According to VGKing (I think it was him...) NOBODY wants the NextBox to fail :)

Excuse me while I spit out my tea in shock and try to take that comment seriously ;) hehe


I think he meant they just don't want NextBox to succeed :) But as this gen already showed, forum-trends, forum-majorities and forum-facts seem to belong to a world which shares close to nothing to the real world out there ;)



fillet on 03 April 2013
walsufnir said:
fillet said:
walsufnir said:
fillet said:
DietSoap said:
I thought it went without saying we were talking about the rumour, I hardly claim that Microsoft actually unveiled anything yet.


You stated your opinion as fact. Are you someone who knowngly states a rumour as a fact? That is called a troll and that is what you're doing.

Ubisoft's statement should be music to anyone's ears, of course it's not an absolute claim in performance but more power in a new gaming console can only be a good thing for people who like gaming.

It sounds like you just want it to fail?

According to VGKing (I think it was him...) NOBODY wants the NextBox to fail :)

Excuse me while I spit out my tea in shock and try to take that comment seriously ;) hehe


I think he meant they just don't want NextBox to not succeed :) But as this gen already showed, forum-trends, forum-majorities and forum-facts seem to belong to a world which shares close to nothing to the real world out there ;)

lmao, I'm with you lol. Although these simple 2 lines sound insane...there's a definite sense of truth in them! I think of it as when we're all young and have a little weak friend who we keep by our side to poke fun at, we're friends as long as he doesn't become as popular as ourselves. Then it's time to declare way...(Xbox1/PS2 - PS3/Xbox 360 says hello)